K&N Air Filter Worth the Money???

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I have a chevy 2001 camaro 3.8l V6 and waht to get this thing up there.. any ideas. i was also looking around discount auto parts today and noticed the K&N Air filters for about 80$. is that worth the money??

posted by  paulb787

I don't really see how an air filter can be complex enough to warrent that sort of cash. its just a filter!

someone said to me you could drive around with no filter, that'd let the air in real well only you might get crud in your engine...

use a coffee filter!
(joke)

posted by  hajamie

Well all those guys that have shelled out $80 and found they make zip difference are hardly likely to tell you they got had are they? The real gains come from extending the air intake pipe (induction pipe if you like wanky speak) and in the process sucking cooler air.

You know there are very nice panel filter replacements some of the rally guys use instead of paper ones?

posted by  Wally

what about upgrading to the Bosch +4 premium Spark plugs.

posted by  paulb787

You're wrong on this one Wally, but not for the reason you might think. On paper the K&N filter (and some of it's clones) give better protection and allow better airflow. I fully believe the former and am on the fence about the latter. Here's what seals the deal for me.

I just looked, and an average quality standard air filter for his car costs $11.88 and a K&N costs $62.88. Now do the math. If you replace your air filter every 10k miles,which is a reasonable average, the K&N pays for itself in less than 60k miles. I personally have one pair of K&N's that I bought new in '72 and have had them on SEVERAL cars. Actually they've become a tradition for me which I've recently passed on to my son.

So... from a cost standpoint the K&N can be very effective. The choice is yours.

posted by  vwhobo

Fair enough.

posted by  Wally

I dono if this is correct or not but i hear that K&N air filters help gas mileage, and also add a couple hourse power

posted by  83transam

i was also on the fence on the K&N situation, and i would highly reccomend for anything., Unless it has a MAF sensor, just like blowby contamination i am a firm believer that K&N recharge oil can contaminate the sensor. in that case maybe go with FRAM airhog or another product that is just a dry paper filter. i dunno i could be wrong but thats my story and im sticking to it, im sure HOBO will inform me i am incorrect, he's good for that and i appreciate it too. :wink2:

posted by  BanffAutoSpa_ap

I'm pretty sure my car has a MAP sensor, is that summat different?

posted by  hajamie

MAP sensor is on the manifold. MAF would be next to the filter on the intake pipe.

posted by  CarEXPERT

vwhomo:

The way i see it it costs you 9.99 per recharge kit (i'm sure you could use some type of soap and motor oil but the regular person buys this kit). The regular purolator filter is 11.88 or something, so you are saving about 2 bucks every 10k, and you start at ~53 dollars in the hole. so that means you need to go 450,000 miles to have it start paying for itself.

(that is of course if you don't count whatever such other gains come along with this filter i.e. performance)

i'm certainly open in this matter, what do you think?

posted by  carls47807

i think starting the conversation of with "VWHOMO" he probably won't say a damn thing to you....just my opinion

posted by  BanffAutoSpa_ap

vwhoBo:

The way i see it it costs you 9.99 per recharge kit (i'm sure you could use some type of soap and motor oil but the regular person buys this kit). The regular purolator filter is 11.88 or something, so you are saving about 2 bucks every 10k, and you start at ~53 dollars in the hole. so that means you need to go 450,000 miles to have it start paying for itself.

(that is of course if you don't count whatever such other gains come along with this filter i.e. performance)

i'm certainly open in this matter, what do you think?

maybe now i can hear his words of wisdumb. just kidding, i admit he knows his shit. but i admit i do too.

posted by  carls47807

A $10 recharge kit is good for about 20 cleanings. More to the point, unlike a paper or foam filter a K&N filter actually works better with some use so you don't want to clean it as often as you would change a standard filter. Even living in the desert a recharge kit will last an easy 100k miles. And if you're like me and can make a car last or are willing to transfer parts from one to another you can get years of use. Remember, I've had one pair of K&N's for over 30 years. Do you think I got my money out of them? I do.

posted by  vwhobo

ahh, see i didn't know how many times you could reuse them. up here in central new york, the bodies rust so fast i've switched my acclaim drivetrain over twice. maybe i will look into this.

for the average, lazy, potato chip eating, soda binging american i would have to say they wouldn't reap the benefits.

so i'm bitter.

posted by  carls47807

I'll agree with that statement. Most all of my employees have K&N's they've gotten for free from just that type of customer. They don't want their old (K&N) filter cleaned, "just replace the damn thing". Just today I pulled out a K&N from an '02 F-250. "Just replace it". Sure thing buddy.

Do you need one?

posted by  vwhobo

Purolator part # L23465 works in both my acclaims, my 86 escort and my friends dodge neon.

unfortunately no one in my town has the money to ever buy one in the first place, and if they do they trade the truck in after 30,000 miles so it never really matters.

i'll just steal one from advance auto, greedy corporate bastards. :)

posted by  carls47807

No. Theyre no good on American cars for some reason. I would go with the K&N filter. They DO give you a 10 - 15 horsepower gain.

posted by  FordFromHell351

The K&N filter can go up to 50,000 miles without being at least cleaned and it also gives you better airflow.

posted by  99integra

i personally go with hobo on this subject. the K&N filter, along with its imitators, can actually last a pretty long time..... mostly depends on how dusty or polluted the area is. some ppl dont even buy the washing kits, they just stick to water and soap. i personally use a water softener to wash the car and all of its stuff.

posted by  Inygknok

I just recharged my k&n fileter and paid 10 for the kit, and it said that with out the oil it want catch the dirt like it is supposed to, and a ? could the oil mess up the valve that allows oil into the intake, Im no mech, but have oil in my intake. coming from the valve cover and what part is that, I need to raplace. sorry to get off topic.

posted by  toycoma

I got a K&N filter on my 2002 Camaro SS. I put it in at 7k miles, which is when I bought the thing, and it's the last filter I need to buy. K&N is worth it, period.

posted by  H2_noob

i am a beliver in the K&N filters. after they get broke in they work even better and will give you better air flow and the air will be cleaner too. a paper air filter only catches dry stuff. the K&N will catch all the crap. and when a paper filter goes through the rain a few times its worthless. i found that out the hard way. i was living in wa. nothing but a constant rainy season. so i will be one to tell you that a K&N filter is the way to go.

posted by  frizzal

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