I am trying to decide between a '98 camaro, a '98 firebird, and a '97 corvette. What do you suggest?
Uhhhhh none of them :laughing:
Just kidding, I would go with the Firebird. Actually I would get a Trans Am of that same year, just make sure it will be a WS6 :drool:
yeah, i would much rather have a 305 hp v8 than a 200 hp v6. It is a ws6
It depends on what you want to do with it. if yo're looking primarily at drag racing, go with the Camaro or Firebird (they have the same engines, same weights, and a live axle which is good for launches). if you want to have fun in other venues, go with the Corvette.
WS6 Firehawk. Plus, the F-bodies will probably be cheaper on insurance than the 'vette.
alright, i would go with the camaro. reason being is the wide range of parts for it and it will be cheaper than the vette in payment and insurance. it wont take much to match the vette's performance, so i would go the cheaper route and it will be fun to have and play with. the options are endless.
If you are looking for drag racing go for the firebird, me and my friend have raced 100's (illegally jsut on the street) and between the camaro and the firebird, firebirds put up more of a challenge no prob, but in the end they all loose to his 1998 Mustang Cobra SVT
I hope you understand the idiocy of that statement someday :banghead:
I'm gunna pretend I didn't hear that... ::inhales, exhales::
Ok I'm going to say this in the kindest way possible:
THEY'RE THE SAME DAMN CAR!!! :banghead: :banghead: :cussing:
OUCH!! :cry: They may essentially be the same underneath but looks wise
they are different. IMO Camaro got ugly from 1970-1978 or so and Firebird
was nice until 1979-1995.
And Moparman, i would probably have to say the Firebird only because it would be cheaper then the Corvette and is a little better looking then the Camaro.
I'll give you that much. But Engine/drivetrain is exactly the same
Thats true. The only difference is one may say Pontiac and the other Chevy/Chevrolet.
No shit sherlock but what I said was the Firebird always put up a little more of a fight then the Z28 why i don't know maybe more of those that we raced were manuals with a shift convertor, all I know is that races are usually closer when he races a firebird not a camaro
Butm, that can't have anything to do with the car, as the chassis and
drivetrain is the same back to '82 (at least before that the engine's and
transmissions were different), so the point is moot in this conversation.
With identical engines, transmissions, weight, and chassis, then one can't
"put up more of a fight" than the other...
And a manual with a shift convertor? Automatics can have shift kits, and performance torque converters, and manuals can have different shifters, but what's a manual with a shift convertor?
I forget exactly what ti is called but on 6 speed firebird and camaro's you have to shift from 1st to fourth or third, retarded, but that is how they are.
Short shifting or double clutching?
Neither, hes just stupid. :laughing:
I'm lost now, but it looks like i'm not the only one :screwy:
It doesn't take long for Alex to get lost :laughing:
Aww damn, that doesnt help. WHo the hell is Alex? (i might feel dumb after being told) :banghead:
*In a slow voice* Maybe its turbolag :laughing:
I like to use peoples real names when I get to know them :wink2:
Haha what you think is slow may seem fast to others (ME!! ME!!) :laughing: only at times though, considering the answer was obvious to who you were talking about. :tard:
wow, I have never personally met you guys before and you STILL know that I have no sense of direction :laughing:, I never know where I am or where I'm going. NEVER EVER ask me for directions . Maybe I really am a simple mind.
Haha, i dont know what to say to that :laughing:
I don't feel like finding info on it right now but on the 6 speeds they
come stock with something where you can't shift from 1st to second you have
to go from 1st to third or fourth on the firebirds and camaro's, I don
't care if you believe me or not I will find info on it when I am not tired. Its not double clutching or short shifting.
nope, it's "skip shift"
What's the point of it?
Don't you feel ignorant now.
I dont think he ever feels ignorant, like c'mon its Turbolag :laughing: . Just kidding with you Alex :thumbs:
lol prolly right
:smoke: None taken :laughing: :thumbs:
i believe that gm introduced it as a fuel saving measure--maybe something to meet CAFE standards... kinda like the "fuel economy gauge" gm had in the 80's... or the caddy 4-6-8, or chrysler's little light on the fender--(anyone remember that?) skip shift made it so you had to skip gears under light acceleration (i think--never had to deal w/ it--feel free to correct me here...) there does exist a bypass for it, though...
GRRRR, You beat me to it dammit :doh: :laughing:
The "skip-shift" on 6 speed Corvettes, Camaros, Firebirds, and GTOs is an
EPA measure. Under light throttle, between 15 and 20 mph, this annoying
little feature leads the shifter directly from First gear to Fourth.
BUT, it's only under light accelleration at low speeds. Hard accelleration voids this, so the $30 skip shift eliminator kits don't change anything under hard accelleration. Only when cruising around town slowly.
Therefore the "shift convertor" he was talking about wouldn't have changed the outcome of any race, as in a performance situation the stock skip-shift doesn't come into play to START with.
You really don't use 1st gear also on the 93 mustang gt, I have never used it :smoke:
Thanks for clearing that up I had heard so many people talk about it, but none of them mentioned this important fact.
to tell u the truth i would go for the firebird but get the trans am in a older year maybe like 80 81 old muscle is nicer than new muscle
corvette, no question- it will outhandle the other two and is much better looking. Camaros suck ass.
Just cuz you don't like it doesnt mean it sucks ass. Don't make me get ChrisV up in here
Okay Gay-J, the Corvette may outhandle the other cars, but based on personall preferance you can't say the Camaros suck ass. Why do the suck ass? :evil:
Have you ever driven or owned a camaro?
It's not that he's owned or driven one, it's just that he knows so much about sucking ass.
About that whole shift skip thing, it kicks in at 1500 RPM's and kicks off at 2500 RPM's, it also kicks off after about 5 seconds, nonetheless putting it on a sports car was not a bright idea...it's annoying as hell when you slip into fourth when you wanted to go into second...Incidentally, I know this because I own a '01 Trans AM WS6.
Camaros were ugly from 1976-1997 :laughing:
Haha i thought that too but they are starting to grow on me, same thing with the '70's Mustangs.
WOW it's not that hard just get a corvette plus that car will blow a firebird and a camaro out of the water :banghead:
But as ChrisV stated we don't know if he wants to race the car or drive it.