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hey guys

planning to buy american car .

what are your thoughts about it ..are they cheap . are they good buy

can american car industry survive competing to low cost asian cars

posted by  omaish

I got a question about your sig, it says you do rental cars, but I thought Omaish people used horse and buggies :laughing:

posted by  99integra

the american industry can survive because it sells to a diffrent market not everyone wants an econobox.

posted by  Aondor

LOL thats why GM is in such hot water right...LOL :laughing:

posted by  TheFieroKid

In a company that large it's difficult to run lean. I worked at a much, much smaller company a while ago, we cut out an entire level of management and it had no effect on the functionality of the company. Now just imagine if the company is 100X that size. There's a lot of people on payroll that don't honestly need to be there.

posted by  Bino

:laughing:...He was refferring to Domestic bred horses :laughing:

posted by  chris_knows

America IMO will have Luxury, SUV and Truck scene covered. Honda Ridgeline IMO is nowhere close to the Silverado's, and the 4-Runner isnt as great as the Tahoe.

posted by  newyorker

Well look who couldn't stay away. :banghead:

posted by  vwhobo

Um, the 4Runner and the Tahoe, aren't in the same class. Sure, they're both trucks, but your comparing 2 different kinds of trucks. It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Honda Accord. Sure, they're both cars, but they're not in the same class. A better anology would have been a Chevrolet Blazer and the 4Runner. Or your "King of trucks" Tahoe with a Toyota Landcruiser. And in both cases, I'd still take the Toyota :2cents:

posted by  elchango36

Um, no. Trucks have open beds and can actually carry something without getting the leather dirty. Otherwise you are correct.

posted by  vwhobo

Ah, I can see where your coming from. Yes, I am wrong for using slang and calling SUV's Trucks. Sorry. I call what you just mentioned Pickups. :thumbs: I will try to change my ignant ways!!!!

posted by  elchango36

:screwy:

I have three letters and two names for you.

BMW

Mercedes-Benz

Name an American Luxury car company or car for that matter that out sells one of these companies, and is coveted by all people with a taste for the finer things in life????

Those German's will always kick our asses in the luxury department. :banghead:

posted by  elchango36

Like it or not, Cadillac sells more cars than both BMW and Mercedes in this country combined. More importantly, coveting a car is a matter of taste. That makes your statement an opinion and therefore incorrect.

posted by  vwhobo

Really, I was aware that Cadillac sold more cars in the $35,000-$45,000 range than BMW or MB. But the $45,000 and up range, I don't see Cadillac stomping BMW or Mercedes.

Oh yeah, what about globally???

posted by  elchango36

Cadillac isn't really isn't in the global market like the other two. Besides, globally BMW and Mercedes sell more taxi cabs than luxury cars. You're doing the same thing you called newyorker on earlier, comparing apples and oranges.

posted by  vwhobo

Actually, no, you did when you compared Cadillac to MB and BMW. As one company makes entry-level luxury cars while the others focus on producing luxury cars.

posted by  elchango36

If your reading skills were up to par, you'd see that I qualified the statement when said IN THIS COUNTRY.

posted by  vwhobo

So comparing Cadillac with MB and BMW isn't comparing Apples and Oranges??? Because that was your argument.

posted by  elchango36

Pay attention and I'll show you the specific comment of yours that I was responding to;


You asked for an American Luxury car company that outsells BMW and Mercedes. I did. If I had used Chevy or Ford it would be apples and oranges. Just because I cited a company that met your requirements as stated, don't get all confused on me.

posted by  vwhobo

I sure think so. However, it is going to take a while for american automakers to get back on their feet... hence all the layoffs announced today.

In terms of what car to get.... it would be good to know more about what you are looking for. For example, I read this weekend, that the 2006 Chevrolet Malibu Maxx SS wagon (Link) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/20/AR20060120 00654.html) was getting great reviews. But this might not be the car for you. I also love the Jeep Commander (although do people even consider this an American car anymore *D-C* ??)... Anyway - list more info, please.

posted by  ChromeDome

last i checked, Cadilac was a luxury car company

posted by  glagon1979

I forgot those, but like hobo said there is caddilac, and then there is Mercury, and Lincoln (with the new Zephyr which I really like)

posted by  newyorker

I do not in ANY way consider the BMW M3 and the Mercedes Benz CL500 AMG luxury. Sure they are comfortable, but they arent luxury cars per-say.

posted by  newyorker

So by your logic niether is the XLR.

posted by  elchango36

Yea pretty much.

posted by  newyorker

... seeing how chrysler is the american branch of that company and jeep is a domestic company, i would have to say that they are still american, just cause the company is half european half american dosent change thier cars

posted by  ride3k

and why do you not consider them luxury?

is it because they go fast? b/c then, very few "luxury" cars are realy luxury. And so you know, the 3 series isnt the beging of the luxury in BMW, it start with the 5's

posted by  ride3k

Because he has obviously never sat in one :laughing:

posted by  elchango36

Definitely, I mean hell, even their bikes are comfortable :laughing::cool2:

posted by  chris_knows

It really depends on what degree of luxury we're dealing with here. I'll tell you from personal experience (but by no means as an owner), that Jaguars are way more luxurious than BMWs. BMW's have stiffer rides and are geared towards handling more than the floating on a cloud feeling. I don't have any experience with MBs or Cadillacs.

posted by  Mathew

Luxury is everything above a necessity. Something that costs more only to give more comfort/enjoyment/etc.

Technically all cars are considered "luxury" items. And cars that add comfort and convenience items are indeed more luxurious. The problem is that even basic family sedans have more luxury content in them now that pure luxury cars did a couple decades ago, due to more people feeling that luxury is a necessity.

Premium marques are luxury cars, even if they are more tuned towards sporting intent vs mere comfort. Think about it, a built-in workout gym is a luxury item, and so is a good cigar, and you can't get more opposite than health and smoking...

posted by  ChrisV

For me luxury is a car with the softest suspention, where I can drive over various road surfaces and have the car smoothly bounce up and down instead of hitting the surfaces hard. My Neon hits them hard, while my old 6000LE just coasted over them. The 2 cars i mentioned, and then the XLR, are more sport built, so I would expect the suspention to be a bit more sporty. Unless its adjustable, it doesnt offer the same smooth ride that the more luxury cars can like the E class and the 7 series.

posted by  newyorker

The thing is that with the times moving ahead, more and more americans want more and more features. Someone said that you dont really need more than 70 horsepower to get around the city, but americans want more. It might just be a thing of trying to show off how large your assets are, or trying to be better than the rest of the world. Or it could be becuase this is a rich country, people buy these cars simply becuase they CAN.

posted by  newyorker

I just said that. Nowadays, people think luxury is a necessity. That doesn't mean that they stop being luxury items just because they are in Kias. ;)

A high end sports car is still a luxury car, just one that is tuned for performance vs pure comfort. That added performance IS the luxury.

posted by  ChrisV

Yeah, you are right about that...

And I am biased, and usually recommend Jeeps - so fair warning. :)

posted by  ChromeDome

Suppose so.

posted by  newyorker

They are cheap and good to buy. Domestic automobiles I am speaking of.

posted by  The_Wheelman

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