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Wut year were the fox body mustangs? Or were the fox bodies just a different model but still all in the same years? And the fox body's had the 5.0 liter engine right? I really dont know anything about the older gen mustangs... help a brotha out please.

posted by  Stem

1987-93.
They had the 5.0 liter...actually 4.9 liters but whatever.

posted by  What

Actually, the Fox Mustangs started in 1979. the Fox chassis was originally developed for the Fairmont/Zephyr, which arrived in late '77 as a '78 model, and was the basis for a number of cars in the '80s. the last one considered a Fox Mustang was 1993, all right. But the SN-95s that followed them were really modified Fox platforms, as well.

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http://www.mustanggt.org/canadiangt/1979cobra1.jpg

Older generation? Jeeze. the Mustang's been around since '64. The Fox versions are [i]late model Mustangs! ;)

They had everything from the 2.3 liter 4 cyl to the 2.8, 3.3, and 3.8 liter V6, and the 5.0 V8. The 2.3s came in normally aspirated and turbo form (there were turbo 2.3s in more than just the SVO Mustangs, too, that reddish orange Cobra pictured above had a turbo 2.3 as an option). The turbo 4s in basic form were the second most powerful engines in the Mustang, though the '79 Pace car and the SVO versions of the turbo 4 cyl were as powerful as the same year V8s.

In 1980, in fact, the 5.0 V8 was not available, with a weak 4.2 liter V8 the only V8. The turbo 4 in that year was the performance option, with half again as much power as the V8!

posted by  ChrisV

ChrisV is correct, but when most people think of the Fox body Mustang they think of the 87-93's...or maybe that's just how it is where I come from.


I bought an 87' Mustang GT today for $4,000.

posted by  What

...so you're saying that you and the people around you don't think properly, yet you still think you're right...

posted by  dodger65

Now turbo the shit outta it.

posted by  Zalight

No, I've adjusted my communication to satisfy the thought process of the "people" projected into my local life. I have full understanding.


Not yet. I'm going to clean it up first then go for n/a power via aggressive cams, headers, stroker kit, etc.

It runs now but needs a starter (a push start was required to test drive it), clutch, and various other maintainence based thingys.

posted by  What

Do you know how many "truthful" miles are on it as the odometers roll over. Give us some specs on it, hatchback, notchback, t-tops(yes some had t-tops), convertible, mileage, any mods, all the goods.

posted by  Pythias

It has 152,000 miles. Hatchback. It's a GT. The guy I bought it from claims it has a modified dual exhaust, modified "adjustable" clutch, modified engine computer, and the a/c was converted to R-134a.

posted by  What

That A/C is like 800$ I believe to convert it. By modified computer what do you mean, is it still speed density or has it been converted? The dual exhaust, as in the exhaust part only or has the stock H pipe been replaced or the headers?

posted by  Pythias

I don't know the answer to your computer question. I didn't ask since I plan on replacing it anyway. The entire exhaust system has been modified. But I'm going to re-modify it to my liking. I don't like the excessive noise.

posted by  What

Well if you are going to do things like h/c/i combo you want to convert the 87 from speed density to mass air flow. The conversion kit costs around 600$, and you do not gain anything initially from it, BUT mass air flow will take modifications, such as h/c/i a whole lot better than the speed density system will. The fastest I have personally heard of someone pushing a speed density system in the 1/4 mile is like 12.54 I believe it was in 89 when they switched the 5.0's over from sd, to maf

posted by  Pythias

i had one w/ t-tops. that car friggin' leaked like they weren't even on....

posted by  dodger65

Sounds like my friend Alfonso's 5.0 (http://racingsouthwest.com/forums/index.php?&act=garage&CODE=12&CID=844)

posted by  Zalight

for that price, that stang better be pretty pimpin'... the kelley blue book only lists it for 1480 loaded in excellent condition...:screwy:

posted by  dodger65

Kelley Blue Book is about as off as you can get. There is one on Ebay right now with about 3 mods, pretty clean, 68k original miles, went for like 6 something, and actually never met the reserve. Nice Fox Bodies are worth some money. If you don't believe me I can link you to as many ads as you wish.

posted by  Pythias

People can try to sell cars for whatever they want. KBB doesn't account for mods, history, or anything important like that. All it really looks at is the simple facts. Age, Condition, Country of Origin.

If KBB went far back enough, they would probably say my car is worth $50 or some bullshit amount like that.

posted by  PontiacFan27

Lolz yes they would.

posted by  Pythias

hold on. i'm about to create an ad for a $15,000 escort, so you'll think they're really valuable too... for older cars up to a point kbb is useless, but for some, it can provide a good baseline. i'm not saying fox bodies aren't worth anything, i'm just saying that $4000 seems a bit pricey for an 87 hatchback unless it's pretty special...

posted by  dodger65

Yeah but your escort wouldn't sell, a foxbody for 4k, 9times out of10 will sell very quickly. :thumbs: It may seem pricey to you, but I suggest you take a closer look at autotrader.com, and corral.net/forums go down to the cars for sale forums and check out the 87-93 prices. Believe me I haven't been looking at the prices of foxbodies for over a year to not know what they are and are not worth.

posted by  Pythias

it still seems like the ones i've seen (yes, at autotrader) for 4000 need much less work than the one what just bought.:2cents:

posted by  dodger65

They probably do. They just won't tell you until you've travelled 1600 miles to f*ckin California to buy it.

And besides, the car I've bought doesn't require that much work. He's already purchased the clutch, I just have to install it. The starter I have to buy.

Everything else is preventive maintenance. I wanted to do an engine rebuild. I was more concerned about the body condition and the general health of the engine. The engine and body is excellent, I repeat.

Most people would change the clutch and install a new starter and be happy they've bought a $4,000 + $400 Mustang.

I'm a perfectionist.

Also, Kelly Blue doesn't do so well in judging "icon" vehicles. Vehicles like the Eclipse GSX and Corvette are under valued on Kelly Blue Book. You should know this...you f*cking idiot.

posted by  What

you're a perfectionist? :roll:

whatever. you saw a shiny mustang gt and said "wow! that's better than my moped!" and now you're going to keep trying to justify the price...

...and i think most people would rather pay $3500 to $4k for a mustang that they didn't have to push start for a test drive, doesn't need exhaust and a clutch for them to like it, and has under 100k miles...

so what does determine the value of an "icon vehicle"? the tool buying it that doesn't know what he's looking at? tell me, mr perfectionist, how you can justify paying extra for "modifications" that you can't describe and plan to eliminate anyway? so you just paid extra for stuff you're going to shitcan... and if the computer is modified, how come you can't tell us how. it's b/c you don't know, fine. wouldn't it behoove you to know what has been done to the computer in case the mods you plan to make have already been done? or did the owner tell you and you didn't understand, so you're just going to throw money at it b/c you have more of that than common sense? (which would only be a couple bucks:2cents: )

just stop typing, b/c you seem to lose iq points every keystroke you make...

pythias, what did you pay for your stang and how much work did it need? and how many miles?

posted by  dodger65

Pay extra for those mods? I didn't do that. Those modifications didn't impress me. And the car isn't much shiny. I like this type of Mustang and I'm looking forward to the build up. My dad has one and it'll be interesting to challenge his car.

I don't have to justify my purchasing decisions. Not trying to gloat, but $4,000 isn't much of a dent in my wallet considering I spent it on a car. Yes, there are better off 5.0's that I could've bought from somewhere else in the country...but why? I have built up a career and assets to where I have the extra money to pay for the convenience of buying from the local, smaller market.

posted by  What

Yes. The market depends on the sellers and buyers. If this "tool" thinks the price is too much, then he can either try to find one for cheaper, or just not get one.
Likewise, if a person selling a car can't sell it for the price hes trying to sell it at, he can either lower the price or not sell it.

If KBB would follow the market rather than trying to set it on its own, it would be a more useful tool.

posted by  PontiacFan27

I found a pretty good deal for mine, drove 3 hours to get it nonetheless. it's an 88' Mustang Gt convertible, bone stock down to the air silencer, just the way I wanted it, a "virgin". Never been raced or dragged on, don't know mileage really, though I believe it was 220k. I didn't care that much because nothing was going to be left alone in it, and it still ran pretty damn strong. The convertible top, although not new, was in decent condition. There were a few repairs I had to do such as new universal bearings on the driveshaft I believe? and a few other little things like the headlight that came out 1/2 an inch :cussing:. Stupid maryland inspection, anyway inspection fixes were around 400$ and I paied 2800$ for it, so 3200$ I had a reliable car that I drive. The rest of the stuff and money I put into it were routine maintenance and stuff that just eventually went bad, such as I replaced the starter. And a few hi pressure power steering lines because somehow they rubbed against the radiator. But all in all it is a solid car and I love it. If I could go back I would buy it again and how it is running and the body is I am happy with it, and in the end I think that is all that matters.

posted by  Pythias

Exactly, BUT I think a majority of kbb values are correct, only for certain cars like the 5.0 foxbodies and others is it different, and I'm sure ti would take much mroe time to design a system that "follows the market" which I'm sure is why they haven't.

posted by  Pythias

Well, I sure have learned a bit here....I'll need to read in more detail, but I kinda feel stooooopid for starting a similar topic, lol

posted by  Cliffy

i'm not bagging on your car. i just couldn't remember what you bought it for. i was just wanting a cost vs. value comparison on mustangs involved in this thread...

posted by  dodger65

The car I learned to drive stick on was a 91 5.0 whipple charged, thing scared the hell outta me but my grammpa was like (aww she won't bite) lol, she bite hard as I spun her out around a corner lol. But he sold that thing for about 6k with 120k miles but the engine was 5 years old with 80k miles on it

posted by  99integra

Yeah, well like I said I got a GOOD deal on mine, back in Ohio, I couldn't find a decent one for under 3,500, no joke, for the Foxbodies it almost matters as much as your location, theres one I saw on autotrader, 250k miles exactly like mine, asking 3k from a dealership for it. If you want a few examples of prices for them, I could show you tons that would x4 or x5 the kbb of them, especially when for a mint one with like 10k kbb rates it at like 1600$ when i just saw one go on ebay for over 5500 and reserve WASN'T met.

posted by  Pythias

yeah. i went on autotrader and did a search for cars w/in 200 miles of me and found some decent sounding cars... one was a car w/a 347 stroker that needed a little bodywork and a header panel and front bumper for 3k or so.... like the asking price ever really means anything, tho...:wink2:

posted by  dodger65

A friend told me that a Ford Mustang new in USES, cost approximately 20.000 $. Is certain?

In my pies with that money do not you obtain a car thus.

Greetings Realista

posted by  Realista

Yes they are around that price but just for the base model with the V6.

posted by  99integra

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