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im new to the forum, i was wondering if a 02 standard focus se (94000m) is a better deal than a 98 standard firebird (74000m) 6 cylinder?

posted by  bigpileofstupid

One can't really say which is a better deal if you don't provide the price for each...

posted by  Newspeak

5495 for the focus and 5995 for the firebird

posted by  bigpileofstupid

Newsflash. Whether we know the year, make model and price or not, nobody here can decide "whitch" (:roll:) is best because we don't know "whitch" (:roll:) is better deal for what. Before you type another word, think out what criteria you define as better and THEN you can get some reasonable help.

posted by  vwhobo

ok well then whats the general feel of a focus over a firebird? is there anyone that has an opinion on both cars?



please if someone's going to post please just help me out with the question i'd apprciate no more lame flames.

posted by  bigpileofstupid

i can tell you that a focus is going to be nothing like a firebird
if your on a budget, id say the focus, but if you have a garage and tools...

the firebird

posted by  nighthawk

Another e-tard who just doesn't get it. A Focus feels like a small economy car. A 6-cylinder Fireturd feels like something a 40 year old divorced secratary would drive to make her look young. You still haven't defined what it takes to make a car a better deal in your eyes. Until you can competently do that, you're just wasting bandwidth.

posted by  vwhobo

:clap: :clap: Hahaha.

posted by  Newspeak

The first time you combated me, i felt like an idiot, and fought back.

But i think you sober'd up my ignorance, and i now appreciate how much ass you kick.

posted by  Spade

is the focus 1.6, 1.8, 2.0, 2.2 litre, diesel/petrol, old shape/facelifted model???
whats the firebird look like? rusty, bad shape, needs work?
id have the focus for practicality, efficiency etc etc

posted by  True_Brit

You haven't supplied us with enough information, pictures of the cars, condition, spec's.

:screwy:

posted by  Spade

I dont think the Focus received a facelift in the US, as their original model looked more like our facelift (with integrated indicators in the radiator grille.......although dated now, in 2001 it was probably deamed ground breaking, lol)

http://www.roadandtravel.com/roadtests/hotflash/images/focussvt.jpg

http://www.pamspaulding.com/Pam/cars/focusztw1.jpg

I'm also not sure if as many engines were offered that side of the pond, I think they might have Focused (excuse the unintentional pun, lol) on the larger, 2.0-litre model! Also, I've never known of a 2.2-litre model, are you refering to the ST Focus? as I'm sure that's a 2.4-litre Volvo turbo engine! :thumbs:

posted by  Cliffy

Just for your info, the US spec '02 Focus SE was available only with a 2.0l gas (petrol) engine, either SOHC (VIN P) or DOHC (VIN 3).

posted by  vwhobo

Thanx for the info. They made a SOHC Focus? I'm assuming it was an 8-valve model?

By the way, did you guys in the US ever have a Focus like the following? as that's our facelifted model, from 2001 - 2005...

Facelift 2001 2005:
http://www.vendesi-autotrader-usedcars.co.uk/cms/thesite/public/uploads/upl oadsbank/1126023166_932.jpg

Pre-facelift 1998 - 2001:
http://pictures.autorespond.co.uk/nepautoram2-1129531028958_big

posted by  Cliffy

You would be assuming correctly.

posted by  vwhobo

Blimey....the last 8-valve petrol we had was the 2.3-litre in the Ford Galaxy, which, if memory serves, they stopped putting in it when it was renewed in about 2000. I edited the obove post by the way....just another curious question...

posted by  Cliffy

Don't quote me on this but I don't think we got the facelift until a couple years ago (2004?), still on the Mk I version.

posted by  vwhobo

I see.....so you dont have the brand new look version either?

http://www.carzunlimited.com/Pictures/Misc/articleimages/focus.500.jpg

posted by  Cliffy

i think the five door looks better in ST form
http://www.alpra.com/Zeneva/foto/Ford-focus-ST.jpg

posted by  True_Brit

Nope Cliffy, we've still got the Mk 1 Focus as stated earlier by hobo. The facelifted Focus we got is the one pictured below...somewhat a 'hybrid' between the Mk 1 and Mk 2 in terms of styling.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/09/30/240175.1-lg.jpg

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/09/30/240175.3-lg.jpg

*Note how the head lights are somewhat similar to the Mk 2's and the grill looking near-identically.

Not being exactly sure when the facelift occured either, I began seeing them here at around the end of 2004/beginning of 2005.

posted by  Newspeak

you know,, the front styling on that focus looks like the ford mondeo
http://auto.kulichki.com/img/mondeo.jpg

(i mean the headlights and grille)

posted by  True_Brit

That's more of a facelift than our Mk1 received, lol. Bear in miknd that the lastb pic I showed wasn't a facelift, but a brand new model, our facelift featured revised front lights and grille, and new trim, as I posted somewhere above :laughing:

posted by  Cliffy

I think he just wants to know what a better deal in terms of the prices for the car value.

But like someone said earlier the focus is basically an econo-box lol.

posted by  Bronxie

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