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What makes a Ferarri sound the way it does and how do I make my 1997 camaro
Z28 sound like one?
Also If someone put a turbo charger in their camaro would it sound like
those drifting cars in fast and the furious 3 tokyo drift?
Do Ferarri's sound the way they do because they have turbo?
Also what is the best way to make my 1997 Z28 sound louder and what would
it sound like with a smaller muffler like those tuner import japanese
customized Honda civic Si and nissan Z-350 cars.
portland5
Oh dear god help us all
99integra
il try to answer this with all seriousness and in the order questioned
1. nothing except a ferrari engine
2. no it wouldnt
3. most ferraris dont have turbos..i know for sure the older f40 did but
thats all i can think of
4. louder..straight pipes with no cats
5. nothing can make it sound as bad as a civic with a fart can
in closing
stop being a ricer...if you worship the fast and furious movie series, you
dont deserve a car
newyorker
im sorry but ROLFMAO
too bad it wouldnt all fit in my sig :orglaugh:
nighthawk
actually, you can make it sound like a ferrari with the right
modifications, if you put the ferrari enzo exhaust and right parts on, it
would sound like a ferrari, my friend has a tuner car, he races a 350z twin
turbo, all that ish, can knock down at 04 mustang mach 1 with a
supercharger with ease
jslow913
wtf did that have to do with his exhaust...its not going to sound like a
ferrari ever stop being a tool
newyorker
WTF??????? What is this world coming to and why do we get all the reject
car kids here.
Spanky2324
apparently you dont know what your talking about, if you put the ferrari
enzo exhaust on it it will sound like the ferrari enzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0sS2uu6dBk
watch around 50 seconds
and you call me a tool? learn your stuff before you talk shit
jslow913
that might be an enzo exhaust but it doesnt sound like an enzo it sounds
like a range rover with no mufflers
this is an enzo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BZ41POvmeqQ
note how it doesnt crackle or pop as much as the rover...thats what i
thought shut up
there is nothing you can do to make your car sound like a ferrari
100%...the closest ive ever seen was an NSX with a full titanium exhaust
newyorker
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! :orglaugh: :clap:
This has to be the funniest thread in the history of CF!
elchango36
I think this should be stickied
newyorker
What makes a ferrari or any motor sound the way it does is its engine
pulses.
I do believe the ferrari is a flat plane crank and a different degree V
engine plus its a 4V per cylinder.
It be impossible to make an LT1 sound like a ferrari because the intake is
different, the displacements different, the LT1 isnt even an OHC motor,
plus the enzo has 4 more cylinders. You are a dumbass and so is the guy who
posted a clip of the Range Rover. I hate you even more because your
spreading your ignorance. And just becaue your friend has a TT Z33 which I
highly doubt, doesn't make you shit, just a nutswinger.
Why would you want to sound like Fast and the Furious car you have a LT1 be
proud, why try and be like slow cars, go join LS1tech or LS1LT1.com
and learn some shit and quit bein a retarded ricer.
To make a Z28 ound louder you doe xhaust mods,
You can get Headers
ASM (mids)
Edlebrock (shorties and they suck)
Pacesetter
Kooks
QTP
Hooker
Jet-Hot
and the accomadating Y pipe
Then you get a catback
Hooker
TSP rumbler
SLP loudmouth
SLP 2OTL
Flowmaster (sucks)
Magnaflow
GMMG
Stainless Works
B&B Triflow
Plus many more
or you can always do custom True duals but your gorund clearance will
suffer.
Heres how mine sounded with the old exhaust,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHFW7t7huUI
Quit being a dumbass
Enthusiast
I thought that catback doesnt make your car sound as loud as a straight
pipe?
hehe engine swap anyone? If you made more money than you knew what to do
with, then maybe you would look at something silly like trying to make your
Camaro sound like a Ferrari, or even better, an Enzo Ferrari.
I doubt its even possible to do an engine swap for many reasons. Maybe if
you found an older V8 Ferrari engine but I don't know. Plus the design of
any Ferrari engine is totally different than a Camaro. So unless you were
rich and had nothing better to do, you would still have to find someone who
is skilled enough and willing to do the swap. And then if you added the
exaust than yes your Chevy would prob sound like a Ferrari. Actually your
Camaro would no longer be a Camaro. It would be a Camaro body with a
Ferrari engine so you cant really count this. Anyways the whole engine swap
thing is unrealisitc and pointless (just something I had to bring up as the
only "possible" way to make your car sound like a ferrari)
Anyways... WHY on Earth would you WANT to make your Camaro sound like a
Ferrari??!? A Camaro sounds great the way it does. If you want your Camaro
to sound louder than do what Enthusiast suggested. Plus I think there are
other ways to make your car sound louder (and no I dont mean slapping a
muffler on).
And thats just stupid... Trying to make your American muscle car sound like
a European exotic that has a totally different engine. Its the same thing
if some guy with a Honda Civic decided that he wanted his car to sound like
a Chevelle SS... It just doesnt work
JORD88
I have a SLP Loudmouth catback, and I had to run the car with nothing
behind the I-pipe when I was putting it in. I can say for sure that this
exhaust is pretty much just as loud (from the outside of the car) with this
catback as it was with the entire back half of it's exhaust missing.
If you want loud for cheap just put a cutout on the I-pipe.
I hate this thread. Honestly, if you want a car that sounds like an import
tuner, buy an imoport tuner. Don't ruin a perfectly good Camaro.
giant016
Wait...I thought the cat didn't affect the sound, just the
muffler/tailpipe?
I want this thread to be stickied too :mrgreen: lol
chris_knows
The muffler and resonator controls the tone and volume of the exhaust
noise. A skilled muffler-man can create or tune a resonator for ya boy's
Camaro to match the tone of a Ferrari, but since Camaro V8's don't pulsate
like Ferrari V8's he won't fool anyone.
What
Why not just buy an exhaust system to make the engine sound good, not
necessarilly like a Ferrari.
chris_knows
Apparently, because he's a moron...believe it or not, LT-1 camaros sound
real good with cats and no muffler...better than no cats and a flowmaster
anyway.
Sick88Tbird
that doesn't mean he's not allowed to want to make it sound like something
else :screwy:
windsonian
The main difference is the crank. If you got a flat plane crank it would
sound similar. The rest could be ironed out with intake, cam (right rev
range), and exhaust. It isn't worth it though. Good thought. It will never
sound identitical, but you could probably get close. Flat plane cranks
sound similar to 4 cylinders though so... ehhhh...
rudypoochris
Flat plane cranks arent readily available though. I know of one company who
will make you a custom billet one but the turnaround time is like 9 weeks
and it is VERY expensive, then youd have to do custom headers to take full
advantage of the flat plane crank, then a different cam since firing order
would change, then youd have to figure out how to deal with the god awful
opti and tuning issues, plus most valvetrain parts would be insanely
expensive since not many rev an LT1 past 7500 rpms even full blown
dragsters, but it would still sound different because it be almost
imposible tp replacate the cam specs between an OHV and OHC motor, plus
displacement would be different.
It would seriously be cheaper to buy a Ferrari motor and put it in.
I know someone is doing it in like a 57chevy.
Enthusiast
Yes, it isn't worth it. Just pointing out what makes the difference. I
believe Scat will make you the crank, but not positive. If I ever decide to
build up a 302 on an aftermarket block and go crazy I would consider using
a flat plane crank seriously. It helps out the response since you can do
with out alot fo the counterweight, but its not worth it for most people
money wise.
rudypoochris
lol - thats all i can say for this entire thread ( get a ferrari soundtrack
cd in your car and blast it every time you take of, that might help)
07exlv6
Why are people still on this. Hes a toolbag, let him try and fail
newyorker
why would you say that?
windsonian
I understand he can be a little misinformed about cars, but read the first
post...come on, that sounds not only stupid but rice too
newyorker
Pfft are you kidding me? I if I had a Camaro I would SOO pay to make it
sound like a Ferrari... Seriously
DSMer
need we mention the following threads??
http://www.car-forums.com/talk/showthread.php?t=27458
http://www.car-forums.com/talk/showthread.php?t=27822
windsonian
How is that rice?? Its different, there is nothing "rice" about it. I dont
have a wing on my car, No huge stickers all over the place, and it looks
and sounds great. Get your shit straight, better yet just shut up:thumbs:
newyorker
Unless your civic has like 300 to the wheels. People are going to call it
rice. Hell even then they will still call it rice. Get over it.. who cares.
No one else has to drive your car but YOU. So why should you give a shit
what anyone says about it?
DSMer
it all depends on the driver, there are ppl out there that if you give them
a muscle car they gonna peel out on every corner, race grandmas on buicks,
put nos decals on their fenders and play fast and the furious soundtracks
in their cars, those people would still be ricers but with big blocks, so
having a civic has nothing to do with it.
07exlv6
These people are also know as *cough* enthusiass *cough*.
"My Camaro runs 11's because I have NOS in it!"
DSMer
did u see the videos i posted on his exhaust thread, i think that kid is
full of it...pretty sad
07exlv6
Yes it is pretty sad, but what can you do. Iono... I guess I could lie and
say my DSM runs 10's. But it doesn't(although I wish it did)... it runs mid
12's. While that may not be one of the fastest... it still is fast and I'm
very confident that I'll be able to make it go faster. Anyways
I like that Accord coupe. So Whatcha got in it :hi: ?
DSMer
Well since i just got it like month ago all it has is a AEM V2 cai,
throttle body spacer, 30th anniversary j30a5 motor lol, and thats it for
the performance, then i got jdm headlights, drilled rotors on stock 17's
and 6000k HID kit, a lot more coming as soon as i sell my other accord,
like HFP lip kit, greddy evo 2 exhaust and more goodies, hopefully next
year a comptech supercharger, but thats next year...next month if i get a
chance hoping to take it to the track and see what it can do pretty much
stock
07exlv6
Ahh...Not calling drilled rotors a performance mod. I like this guy.
giant016
My shit seems fairly straight to me. Where does he mention "wings and
stickers" etc etc?? And he's trying to make it sound like a Ferrari...
which i think would "sound great". You said you were going to drive yours
in a tunnel just to make it sound like an F1.
Show me again where "it's different" .......
windsonian
Because noone else in philly has a side exit on a civic.
newyorker
I'm going to go ahead and say that's bullshit. You CAN NOT claim that
unless you have verified and collected pictures of EVERY Civic in Philly.
Thats just blatant misuse of non-factual information.
As I have told you before. You're NOT the first person to come up with the
idea to put a side exhaust on a car. The fact that you ONLY did it for the
sound and looks is exactly the definition of rice. The welded bends don't
help exhaust flow. However you knew this and still decided to do it the way
it is because it "SOUNDS" better and does not "PERFORM" better.
Generally speaking... looking or sounding good with little adherence to
general performance principles IS indeed rice.
Just because you have 12" less exhaust than most civics does NOT make it
unique. If your Civic had an LS6 engine in it... THAT would be Unique.
Although I'm almost sure someone has probably tried that too.
DSMer
side pipes on a lil 4 cyl civic hahaha i bet it looks retirded as hell
07exlv6
No it isnt rice...so you tell me all show cars are rice right?? Because a
LOT of them have stock engines, thats why the hood is always closed. And
let me correct this. Noone else in philly that ive seen in all my years
living here has a side exit on any HONDA, including civic for that matter
newyorker
what has that got to do with anything?
You still haven't shown me where he's mentioned anything more rice than
yours.
And even if he did mention stickers (which I must have missed), he could
just say "no one else in
windsonian
sayin no one else in philly has one is like me saying there is no one
stupider than newyorker, but with mine there might be some truth to it.
99integra
oh come on read the post not just the one part...that doesnt sound at all
hopeless to you?
newyorker
I did read the whole post .... again.
Nowhere does he mention visual mods .... aka "rice" wings stickers etc.
So .... you're allowed to enjoy your car sounding different because of your
mods, but he's not???
It doesn't sound "hopeless" at all... It sounds like he is lacking
experience and could very well want to learn. He asked direct questions
about what makes cars sounds like they do, and whether he could achieve a
specific sound.
And you think that's worse than recording your car driving through a tunnel
because "it sounds like an F1".
I'll tell you why it does .... the acoustics of the tunnel.... at least
he's trying to achieve a desired sound by modifying the car and not the
environment. I put it to you that his post is less rice than yours.
windsonian
I do recall on a pimp my ride or some other show like that, they put some
sort of electronic system in it which envolved a large speaker that goes
under the car, and a pod inside the car which you could select diffrent car
sounds like.... an F1 car, supercars, Muscle cars and I do believe there
was an enzo.
jamfam
thats stupid
07exlv6
actually its not stupid,...sorry
jamfam
lol u must be 13, who the **** is gonna mount a speaker under their car to
sound like something else :screwy: ricers rule this forum
07exlv6
agreed.
Spanky2324
agreed.. it's a bit strange.. but then again, people use speakers to
produce noise for active noise cancellation and all sorts of weird stuff
like that too, and that's pretty cool.
windsonian
I have 1. I have a 99 acura cl with a 2.3L. So far i've put on headers,
skunkII exhaust, cald air intake, a chip, drilled and slotted rotors. in
then near future it is revieving a msd ignition and a turbo.
jamfam
"rotors with holes in them make me go willy willy fast...." i hate it when
ppl mention in at as a performance upgrade
07exlv6
I never said preformance in any part of that list. and FYI im 22
jamfam
pretty sad, 22 and a dumb ass, im done with this thread
07exlv6
I'de put my car againt your any day.
jamfam
hahahahaha :clap:
07exlv6
"the 150hp 2.3 l i4 is ferocious rice eating machine" :orglaugh: :thumbs:
07exlv6
"...but wait i have headers, exhaust, air intake, and drilled rotors that
will easily give me 110 more hp to match 07exlv6" lol im lovin it
07exlv6
i hate ricers
glagon1979
I hate people who can't keep their word.
20 years old and doesn't know when to quit. You should have shut the f*ck
up an hour ago...and at your age you shouldn't have invested in a second
Accord. What type of dumbass are you. No, what type of dumbasses are your
parents.
What
lol i have no comment seriously wtf??? u blind me with ur logic, something
about me investing money into another accord ...wha..? dude shut the f up,
u r so corny, u just mad cause u r another ricer :thumbs:
07exlv6
Haha yah your right. A built american stroker V8 in an UNMODIFIED body ,
haha there is the definition of rice mobile right there.
http://jj.am/gallery/d/39568-1/shipmentofFail.jpg
Enthusiast
He's clearly not the brightest spark, but he does have a point. He didn't
mention his brakes as a performance upgrade, and even if he did it wouldn't
be a million miles from the truth, afterall, braking could be classed as a
performance upgrade when you do what he's done with it.
Cliffy
and im sure if i put my car up agaist yours in a car show... well lets just
say I know who the winner would be. but since you are slow and can read
well... it wouild be ME
jamfam
what's the purpose of drilled rotors?
windsonian
My point exactly. :thumbs:
Cliffy
Your "come back" would be much more effective if it was threatening,
condescending or funny. A combination of the trhee would be best. It is
none of the above. Once you progress past the sixth grade you'll
understand. Let me help you out;
Yeah, that's it. :thumbs:
Seriously newb, you're a freaking 12 year old idiot. Why don't you do us
all a favor and STFU?
vwhobo
thank you! oh and i just put in a new "performance" mod......synthetic
oil...it helps reduce friction thus reduces the temperature and makes my
engine purrrr like a kitten, i have aem drilled rotors on mine and i don't
count them as a performance upgrade and never even mention i have them on,
i guess its just me
oh and i wonder who actually likes the way this piece of sh*t looks since
its gonna beat me in the " car show" and all lol
http://images.securedwebform.com/reviews/images/30cl_p.jpg
i swear god i think this was the biggest acura exterior engineering mistake
07exlv6
no... that was a serious question to exlv
windsonian
drilled rotors have a tendency to crack under track use, even porsches
ceramic brakes.
Also drilled rotors cant be turned.
I'm gonna stick with my brembo blanks.
Enthusiast
This thread is full of lol :pop:
jedimario
Goddamn some members need to grow up. This isn't a track or a car show,
you can't prove anything. The arguments are going nowhere. I honestly
expected better.
giant016
What, so you don't know personally? Or you would like to know if he knows?
:laughing:
Numerous high performance cars have drilled discs, infact, pretty much all
new supercars have them...I can only assume I'm missing something here, or
you mean that high performance cars have drilled, ceramic discs....
Cliffy
I was just stating some of the cons of drilled and slotted rotors
Enthusiast
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/psychoticsniper1/of50379442.jpg
Spanky2324
what do you think? :wink2:
windsonian
Ok....I'll explain the purpose of them to you....:laughing: :joking:
Cliffy
Agreed..I love mine especially with the hawk pads.
newyorker
Drilled and slotted rotors better dissipate heat due to their increased
surface area. They probably do crack easier, but they are lighter and
perform better. So it is a trade off. I like wilwood normal style rotors
personally. Brembo is alright, but the stuff we consumers buy is alot more
show than go. Their calipers are ridiculously heavy. Their racing products
which we cannot buy and are not featured on production cars may be better,
I don't know.
rudypoochris
kind of where i was getting at... wanted to hear him say it though :wink2:
windsonian
everyone has their own opinion
07exlv6
Thats why having an F-body is awesome. I can run C6 Z06 Calipers with
relative ease (and 18s) but until they make aftermarket rotors for them
(Stock are slotted, I think, but there is only one rotor so the slots go
different ways side to side, and many guys tracking there vettes are having
problems with them) Ill stay with the C5 setup.
Enthusiast
Umm I always thought that drilled and/or slotted rotors at OEM size wer
worse performance because they decreased the braking contact surface...
newyorker
Yeah, but think about it; your brakes probably have enough power now (if
you can punch the brake pedal and the tires skid, you have powerful enough
brakes). By drilling the rotors, you allow the heat to escape quicker, and
the brakes can cool to their optimal temperature quicker. Also, the point
of slotting the rotors is not to cool the disks quicker, but to clean dirt
and stuff from the pads.
chris_knows
true true...but its not just the rotors though the pads have a lot to do
with it
newyorker
wow this ****ing post should have been killed pages ago.
*shakes head* what happened to this place.
Integra_LS
Your post wasn't here pages ago....:wink2:
As for this thread, it could have been killed pages ago, but I enjoyed this
one, even though my input was minimal...
Cliffy
I have a great idea...lets leave this thread alone :thumbs:
newyorker
Ferrari is either a mid or rear engine platform and each time a new concept
of the exotic is created, they spend over 3 months perfecting the pitch and
tone of the exhaust.
http://www.ferrarispy.com/images/NR360-029-500.jpg
Even the aftermarket exhaust kits for Ferrari range in the $3,000-$4,000
(US) range. Why? Because they take forever to tune. Someone said, "go to
your local welder and have them make one that sounds like a ferrari." Well
you could if you lived next to Ferrari Headquarters and it would cost you
well over $15,000 - I can't find the link but a Japanese man with a new
skyline had an exaust system custom built for him by fabricators over at
the Ferrari factory.
People who say "thats rice" well... you're full of it and full of yourself.
"Just buy a Borla catback" some might say - well personally that only
sounds good on a new vette or a viper.
YOU'RE A TOTAL ASS if you tried to bring this guy down - obviously he
doesn't know about exhaust. So let him be.
ENGINE PITCH = MATH = DO YOUR HOMEWORK - you can get any compression engine
to sound like a ferrari - not all FERRARI's are V10's blah blah blah -
there are Ferrari's with 6 liters in them that sound the SAME
AND ITS BECAUSE FERRARI DOES THEIR HOMEWORK - THAT PITCH, THAT SOUND IS A
BIGGER TRADEMARK THAN THEIR COLORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (their colors
are a huge thing to them - it's not red unless its FERRARI RED - that line
goes a long way with with TRUE vehicle enthusiests)
I bet if I created a ratio to tone/pitch program I could CAD an exaust
setup for anything and have someone fabricate it for me - then it would be
on half the cars in the united states because EVERYONE AT ONE TIME OR
ANOTHER HAS DREAMED OF HAVING AN EXOTIC. I would be a Millionaire over
night...
You can get kit car lambo's and ferrari's that use a Fierro base and get it
to sound like a ferrari so dont be soo hessitent to call people
ricers...
ps - my 89 240sx coupe with KA24DE is a 2.4 liter just like Formula 1 cars
- I'm sure someone has made it sound like a F1 car allready - as like
Ferrari the F1 sound is PURE SEX!
SO - Find a SPECIALIST - not a backyard mechanic - and have them build
and tune an exhaust system for you.
anyways - this is my first post :D cheers! rage on!
Kinyo
kinyo
Original posters Last Activity: 08-19-2007 05:49 PM
hmm...do you really think he gives a shit??
newyorker
No you lose
There are certain parts of an engine that create the certain motors
sound/pitch/tone WAY more than just an aftercat exhaust.
Ferrari parts are so expensive cause if someones going to pay over 150K for
a car they will pay 4K for an exhaust.
Your little 2.4 WILL not sound like an FI car unless its revving to 19K
plain and simple.
And I do believe F1 cars are now 2.8s. They used to be 3.0 V10s but i think
they recently passes a new displacement regulation. And no ferrari doesnt
do near as much acoustic tuning as they used to. Have you heard the
difference between an 360 and a F430, two WAY diff sounds.
I do believe the 430 was the first car they didnt do a whole bunch of
acoustic tuning on.
a 360 is one of the most versatile sounding cars ive ever heard, the 430
not so much.
Your retarded deal with it. Oh and I have a LT1 Z28, so if your such a
badass go draw me up a cad program and make me an exhaust that will sound
like a 360 challenge stradale.
Do it I dare you, its impossible.
Enthusiast
Yep. Only cars ive heard that sound similar are NSX with titanium exhaust
systems
mmm tasty
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FPEviTMqGmc&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=66lEWn401oE&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oOIGKGYE_eU&feature=related
^^nice licence plate ;)
and this next vid is just 4 minutes of sex for the ears
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8JiJ6TJbKQ0
newyorker
