muscle car prices make me sick

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today i was doing my morning routine, which is checking out the sacramento bee and looking to see what cars where on the market. and its making me sick. i go through them and the only car you can get for under 5gs is a rusted up pos thats not worth $500 and theyre trying to sell it for 3 or 4gs. or things like el caminos (things that arent that big in the market) everything else is ove 10 gs and its disgusting. i cant stand seeing how much prices have gone through the roof. theres way too many crack heads out there going "hey i have a numbers matching camaro for 14,000. it needs a new interior and some body work." and you go up there and its a numbers matching car alright. the engine and tranny match up and thats about it. meaning its not the original engine and tranny but the two numbers do match cause they were pulled from the same car. i mean everyonce in a while you will find a good deal like this 1970 camaro lt i saw with a 454 and cowl hood and some nice tires and rims and a decent interior for 3500. but then you look through and see that any pre 70s camaro is over 15Gs even the rusted out no engine/tranny camaros are trying to be sold for over 7gs. i mean honestly what the **** are people thinking now days? another example was i saw a 69 super bee prject car , with a non running 318. a god damn 318! not running at that! and the dumb shithead wanted 11gs for it. and the body need some work and paint. and the interior was fixable. it makes me want to shoot all these crack heads. cause like everything else these materialistic people only car about money and ****ing people over. damn i miss the good ol days.

posted by  72firebird

I agree 1000%, it has gotten crazy. Although I must say it has been good for business. Not that we charge more, we do a job for the same price no matter if it a model A or 'Cuda, but people are willing to put more into these cars because of the increased value they are bringing.

You can not completely blame the sellers....They wouldn't ask that much if there wasn't someone out there crazy enough to pay the price.

posted by  corbett_auto

the thing is though half these cars have been listed on the sacramento bee for the past month. doesnt seem to me like there sellin well. they think that just because its a 67 camaro thats its worth something. a rusted pos is a rusted pos no matter what bag its in. they got a rusted pos and they want bufu bucks for it. its stupid. its so rare now days to find a decent deal. usualy you find them from the older people. its like the enthusiest are keeping there cars, and all these wannabe crackheads are buy cars to sell them at crack head prices

posted by  72firebird

you should go crusing the back roads. lookin behind houses, barns and such. thats how i find most of my demo cars. i know it isnt much of a comparison, but sometimes you can get a pretty good deal on a car just sitting in the yard. after awhile they just want it out of there or something minor might be wrong with it so they just parked it. the worst they can say is no. i always leave my number with them and have got a few call backs. just my :2cents:

posted by  adamc44

I love going down back roads, but at the same time i hate it lol. Kinda sad when you see something so beautiful sitting there rotting away, especially if the owner will not sell.

posted by  car_crazy89

yea i know how that is. ive been badgering my uncles neighbor for the past 5 years trying to get him to sell me this 68 firebird that hes had parked in the dirt next to his driveway. the things sat there forever. it hasnt run in a decade. but theres almost no rust and the paints still decent (besides it being a shit brown color) and you can get good deals from these people. its mostly the younger people whove been ripping us off and making prices go sky high. and adam. you go looking for demo cars. i look for decent shaped resto projects, we settle for different things. but yea going in the country looking for cars is fun. especialy when theres a storage yard out in the country with this 74 donor firebird. the owner has been there to check on it in years ( i occasionaly will make a night trip out there for donor parts lol. it sucks jumping the barbed wire fence but its worth it)

posted by  72firebird

well, i dont think im driving up muscle car prices, maybe, granny car prices. most people arent into restoring land yachts and i do know that most ddrivers wouldnt derby a musclecar. in fact, alot of ddrivers if they come across a driver, will keep it to drive to shows. but, the fact is, prices will keep going up as long as people keep paying.

posted by  adamc44

yup. which makes us average joes shit out of luck in most cases :ohcrap:

posted by  72firebird

i mean even though we now have companies like dynacorn (im not advertising) that are starting to reproduce complete unibodies there still expensive right now. right now itll cost you 10500 for the unibody and its only the firewall back. and we have people building frames too. so hopefully in a few years the prices on those will drop more and more and we might actualy be able to build brand new cars for a decent price :mrgreen:

posted by  72firebird

And they are not stoping with the camaro. They have other thing in their back pocket. Also, if there is money to be made others will join in. There are some really good deals out there to be had it's all in who you know, where you look, and timing.

posted by  corbett_auto

well hey, when i get that malibu (hopefully) ill make you guys a good deal on it!!! $20,000?? all original :hi: lol

posted by  adamc44

sure let me know so I can be the last one in line LOL :screwy:
Seriously, it does look pretty good, Let us see it when it's done.

posted by  corbett_auto

Sad part is in a few years someone might actually pay that lol.

posted by  car_crazy89

Theyre collectors cars now, and growing rarer.

posted by  Oomba

its sad thats why ive had my firebird for 6 years. it was my first car and i plan on keeping it no matter what. even if it gets totaled i can buy new frame and what not. but i think i might but i newer engine in it thats fuel injected to try and get some better gas mileage. cause with the 12mpg it gets now it doesnt get driven much. any good ideas on a good engine that isnt extreme like the new ls7. i mean i like the new camaro engines but i dont like the intake type i like tbi cause i still like the caberatuer and air cleaner look. and maybe any suggestions on a good 4 speed auto to mate it with.

posted by  72firebird

i bought a 1976 mustang cobra for $1500 not a bad deal if u ask me. :laughing:

posted by  Speed Demon

Yeah, my chances of getting a classic muscle car as a first car are slim to none because of this. My dad said that when he was in highschool (which was around 1980-83) he could have gotten a Hemi 'Cuda in good conditon for $2000 or less. He said that he and his friends used to take out old muscle cars and just beat them around not knowing they would have been worth anything in the future. He even flipped over a Dodge Challenger R/T 383!!!

posted by  SlipKnoT

I know exaactly what you mean. My uncle has a 65 Ford Mustang GT that he just wont sell. It just sits there under a cover and a 2 in. layer of dust. He hasn't turned the engine in like 4 years. The body is amazing for its age, no rust, no dents, almost perfect. The paint is showing its age (I beleive it was red when it rolled off the assembly line. It's kinda orange now.) I'm pretty sure all the numbers match. The only thing that need restoration is the interior. ITs pretty ****ed up. Oh, and it's sitting on aftermarket wheels (with flat tires from lack of use). I must have made him a million offers and he just wont budge. It breaks my heart everytime I see her (the stang).

posted by  elchango36

hey i got lucky i payed 8g for my chevelle big block no rust new tires 396
with mucncy 4 spd and 12 bolt rear and new 2500$$ paint with recipt thats canadian curancy.

posted by  Scotty's Chev

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