is this idea for a trans am a possibility...

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my name is rob, im 18 years old living in new jersey...i have been planning to buy a trans am for a long time but havent started putting things into action until recently. I wanna get either an 84 or an 88 pontiac trans am...i wanna rebuild a 305 block and put an after market fuel injection head on it...than i wanna work out the entire air flow system (intake,pikes,headers,etc) so that no matter what work i do in the future i know my air flow is covered. im willing to spend up to $2,000 on all aspects air flow, will i be able to cover everything?. Im looking to get the car in manual but im having a hard time finding one, most the cars for sale are automatic. With all of my plans in mind, im wondering if i would come across a trans am of either year or similar body...that has no engine or transmission in it, would i save money here not replacing existing parts?... do you think this is possible or an unreasonable idea.

anyone with an imput at all about the project is welcome to comment, any knowledge would be appreciated. thanks

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

Why bother rebuilding the 305? You could drop an LT1 or even an LS1 in it.

posted by  Oomba

My exact thoughts......so yes buy one with out a drivetrain and put in whatever you want!

posted by  corbett_auto

i forgot to mention that i wanted to keep the budget within $6,000...this is the first stage in a series of modifications i want to do...im sure the corvette engine will go well over the budget. i intend to get the 305 block from a junk yard and rebuild it myself (except for things i gotta have it sent out for)...can the engine get from the junk yard into the car for $4000 assuming i use the other 2 on the airflow?

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

Are you counting the cost of the car as a different budget or is it included in the $6,000? It might be about the same to buy a 350 from a junkyard and have it rebuilt, parts are pretty cheap/popular (just any 350). Depending what all you do to the engine, you should be able to do it under $4,000 and finish the rest (airflow parts) with the remaining $2,000.

posted by  car_crazy89

how much do you think the car will run me, would it be likely to find a trans am with no engine and transmission...if so what will that cost

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

Well with no engine or transmission i say around $500, maybe less. I think it'd be pretty likely to find, just not too sure about your area. I think it is a reasonable idea that you have.

posted by  car_crazy89

well to be honest, $500 is alot cheaper than i ever expected...is anyone aware of a mid 80's trans am with these specifics, or even a good site or location to be looking?

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

Well i know its a different area but theres been a few around here for around that. To be safe though i'd probably say more around $1,000 though, if you want a pretty good looking body (and maybe interior). I just had a quick look on ebay, theres a few there but i dunno if you'd wanna buy from there.

posted by  car_crazy89

i wanna pick up the 88...do an engine rebuild and while i have the engine out put in a new cam shaft, lifters, and springs..anyone recommend a brand of part or should i go straight through pontiac, whats a reasonable price for these products. also anyone with information on the air flow aspect of the project, i want to get new intake/exhaust man., cat convertors, muffler, pipes, and headers...anything else? im totally new to the purchasing of car parts so sites and prices for anything would be really appreciated...thanks again

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

Generally speaking how much cheaper is it to buy just a body and rebuild an engine and put it in yourself? Just wondering

posted by  c90acm

This is not generally the cheaper route...only if you plan to do something wild with the engine.

posted by  corbett_auto

what do you recommend?

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

Yes it actually would be likely. Or atleast one with a blown engine and a good transmission. Just a shell with no engine or tranny I would say wouldnt be more than $1200 and one with a blown engine and a good tranny would probably be just a smidge higher (probably in the area of $1400-1600.)

posted by  SlipKnoT

The Ellis Juan is available from crateenginedepot for 6,090. Try ebay for cheaper :thumbs:

posted by  Oomba

just so ya know, trans ams are pretty much the same car from 85-90, so that kinda widens your search pattern a little bit. if you really have your heart set on a 305, (it takes all kinds, folks) i would suggest looking in the local "trading" papers, b/c people pull 305's all the time to drop 350's in and i've seen a lot of low mile/rebuilt 305's going dirt cheap in my area... :2cents:

posted by  dodger65

well to be honest...ive had experience with the 88 trans am in the past...my father owned a 79,84, and 88 at different times in his life..and i figure that its already a tight squeeze under the hood that if i put a 350 engine in the car as well as headers than im gonna have such a small amount of room to work when i have to maintence the car...im aware that the gta trans ams have the 350 corvette engine in them so maybe im wrong... i dont have my heart set on the 305 though, if the 350 is the better move than ill go with that

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

you know that the 350 is dimensionally the same as a 305, right? so a 350 won't be any tighter a squeeze than a 305...

posted by  dodger65

A lot of people think that an engine gets physically larger as the displacement goes up. That's why they think a 302 or 350 can/'t fit where a 4 cyl or V6 was...

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186455753&dealer_id=56657947&c ar_year=1988&make=PONT&distance=50&lang=en&max_price=&model=TRANSAM&end_yea r=1988&min_price=&certified=&address=08004&search_type=used&advanced=&start _year=1984&isp=y&cardist=50

Here's an '88 GTA in reasonable shape in New Brunswick, NJ, for $1650 or best offer. Gret choice as a project, just swap in a newer 350 or LT1 when you have the funds...

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/7/25/186/455/1647335913.186455753. IM1.MAIN.565x421_A.562x421.jpg

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/7/25/186/455/1647335916.186455753. IM1.04.565x421_A.562x421.jpg


And here's an '87 in Philly for the same price...

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/8/13/184/516/1702823791.184516369. IM1.MAIN.565x421_A.562x421.jpg

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184516369&dealer_id=56489552&c ar_year=1987&make=PONT&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=&model=TRANSAM&end_ye ar=1988&min_price=&certified=&address=08004&search_type=both&advanced=&star t_year=1984&isp=y&cardist=25

posted by  ChrisV

whats it gonna cost me to change the car from automatic to manual..

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186173005&dealer_id=56630771&car_y ear=1985&make=PONT&distance=0&lang=&max_price=8000&model=TRANSAM&sort_type= priceASC&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=07424&search_type=bot h&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=773

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186228494&dealer_id=56633052&car_y ear=1986&make=PONT&distance=0&lang=&max_price=8000&model=TRANSAM&sort_type= priceASC&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=07424&search_type=bot h&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=2128#vdptop

what do you think about those two cars, only having one picture up makes me think that theres either considerable interior damage or hidden rust

Also,

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=187544011&dealer_id=56759096&car_y ear=1987&make=PONT&distance=0&lang=&max_price=8000&model=TRANSAM&sort_type= priceASC&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=07424&search_type=bot h&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=1087

my mother lives in florida...so if i find a good car in florida it will be real easy for me to go down there to look at it and than bring it here...will buying a car in florida aid me in this project

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

I'd remember the cost of getting a car from Arizona and Georgia (trailering a car from Georgia to NJ would be rather costly, as would one from AZ (or figure about $1500 to have it shipped for you)). But if you check the local lots, you should be able to find one near you fo the same kind of price.

There's a lot involved in changing to a manual, and the cost of a suitable high power handing manual transmission could be high. A serious shift kit and stall converter for teh automatic will handle lots of power and be a lot of fun, itself.

posted by  ChrisV

at this point i have my heart set on manual transmission, im not gonna go through the trouble of swapping transmissions...ill wait till i find a manual car that fits my needs, i have the option of buying one here or in florida so i should find one with in the next few months...it'd be nice to get a new performance transmission but im not gonna have the money for that till next year

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

what is everyones thoughts on tires and wheels...after the first stage of work im doing, im going to spend money to get 16in light weight wheels and good year Eagle gt-hr tires, i also wanna put new springs in the suspension...i figure after that ill have considerablly better control over the vehicle

posted by  jerzyhxc1161

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