Lancer Ralliart as a first car?

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Well a Lan Evo is definitely too much as a first car. Do you guys think a Ralliart is good enough? Is not as expensive as Lan Evo, in terms of the car price and maintnenace. However, everyone is telling me to get a used car, since it's my first car. I'm wondering do I MUST need to get a used car? I just want a car that's between economical and sporty.

posted by  Filibuster

get a Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 ('89 - '91), they're sporty, have a 4G63T and have the same specs as an Evo/GSR/RalliArt.. well.. not the exact same.. but close..

some people refer to them as an Evolution Zero, i call them an E39A.

also, the E39A might be hard to find, so possibally a Lancer GSR (basically a Evolution 1) could be in the grasp, they're a 230hp, 1.8ltr DOHC, EFI, Turbo, Intercooled, 4WD/AWD, 5spd Manual.

do some research on those cars! :D, try researching the E39A and the CE9A, both top competitors.

posted by  HyundaGuy

Well an Evo and a Ralliart are completely different. Test drive as much as possible and then decide. I personally would look elsewhere than a Lancer as a first car and you certainly don't have to buy used if you don't want to and if you can afford it. Do you think you can't handle a fast car or do you just want something moderately sporty?

posted by  VG30DE

Wow, don't listen to this complete tool. This guy is suggesting a 15 year old car as opposed to a brand-new car? Than u say they have the same specs so he should look at it? What kind of dumbass are you? sorry but idiots like this should be banned. :screwy:

posted by  Solar

Moderately sporty is good enough. Maybe is just personal preference, but I find the Lancer to fit my need as somewhat economic as oppose to other sports car(Lan EVO) and gives that sporty sensation. Once again, moderately sporty is good enough for me.

posted by  Filibuster

Unless you have parents who will drop down that kind of money for you get a used car. If you like Mitsu, try Eclipses up to 99.

posted by  Oomba

Just to point out, they only called the 91 model the evo zero, it was the light weight, bigger turbo, front mount i/c with bigger injectors. Also in general the old galant vr-4s had the stronger engines than the early evos. stronger casing and internals, just a way heavyer car unfortunatley.

Just my opinion but, if you were to buy an old car? I'd forget trying to find an old galant in good condition (hard to find as rocking horse shit), but an evo3 would be a better bet! more power, more potential and wouldn't cost you much more. Also with just a couple grand thrown in you would end up beating the big boys in the new cars.
But then again, it's your first car so buy a shitter and learn how to drive first!

Solar ya little b**ch? come and play mommies and daddies with me!
you can be daddy!
now come here and suck momies c**k!

posted by  relicensed

Coming from someone who claimed to have an Enzo along with 20 other top notch cars, only to find out he doesn't even know enough to lie about them, I don't think you should be talking. :banghead:

posted by  Nissan_Altima

i'm guessin' the reason for hating imports so much is because you drive a fuct beetle that can't beat anything slower then a shopping trolley?

seriously, you're a pain in the ****ing ass already, go to ****ing hell you stupid ****ing peice of shit, seriously got me flamed now cunt.

posted by  HyundaGuy

Sporty cars eh? and newer? Here's a list for ya.

Nissan Sentra SE-R
Honda Civic Si
Mazdaspeed Protoge
Acura RSX
Subaru Impreza 2.5RS/WRX

These cars are light, moderately powerful, and lots of fun. They all have functional space as well. They aren't as aggressive as the EVO but they aren't going to lose stoplight races to average econocars with altezzas and fart cannons. Have fun test driving :thumbs: .

posted by  VG30DE

well said dude

posted by  6000LE

Wait for the new '06 Civic Si coming out very soon. 200hp, LSD and 6spd tranny. Probably the best car in that segment under $20k.

posted by  thunderbird1100

Good list, if u got the RSX might also add the integra. I'm gonna also suggest a 5th genereation prelude (97-01). I have one and I love it, and its moderately sporty like you want, has good acceleration and great handling. Lots of room in the front, but in the back seat people are going to be cramped. Especially if its a tall driver like me and slides the seat all the way back, there is no leg room back there.

One more thing though, I have friends with both a 2000 civic Si and an RSX, and the thing about "functional space" doesn't really apply to the back seat.

posted by  Vlad

I love you :laughing:

posted by  99integra

For the Hondas, I meant funtional as in hatch/trunk space with the back seats folded down. The sedans are definitely better for more people :thumbs: .

posted by  VG30DE

True. I thought you meant space for ppl as well. Never mind what I said then, cuz the hondas do have a lot of trunk space.

posted by  Vlad

if you desperately want a rally style car that has plenty of power with handling and style then look into a Mazda Familia GT-R, they're a 1.8ltr DOHC EFI Turbo/Intercooled, AWD, Hatch, completely designed for rally.

they do 13.8's stock in the 1/4mi. and have a top speed of over 200km/h.

the only problem with these cars is that when you start modding the vehicle heavily (pushing it to 250 - 300hp) it starts to eat gearboxes, so if you intend on doin' some crazy shit to the engine then i suggest you save your pennys and have a nice dogbox made for it.

stock standard, they're fast, $2000 later, they're really ****ing fast.

that was a car that just came to my mind, they're good cars, honestly.

EDIT: They've got 207hp STOCK, this can be increased greatly on the stock turbo (it's only on 6psi, can be raised to 14psi) aslong as you get an FMIC with a better intake.

Exhaust, CAI, Boost Raise, Fuel Injectors, Fuel Pump, Fuel Rails, FMIC and BOV will insure great performance in the power category, having slightly softer and lower suspension with heavy dutie shocks will insure great handling, new tyres/mags will also insure great handling.

Brakes, are excellent stock but can be replaced if you desperately want to.... once again.. the gearboxes are slightly weak.. so try not to thrash the shit out of them on a regular bacis.

posted by  HyundaGuy

well contrary to popular belief dont start big! if you do you cheat yourself of fundimental driving tecniques. There is nothing wrong with starting with a good N/A car like a civic,neon,or an GS first gen eclipse. Take Ken Gushi from Drifting, he started with a Toyota Tureno and now he Drifts against a viper and a GTO in a turbo GT Mustang. Like him I also started small, 97 Neon coupe small, Thru RX-7,'85, To my prototype '00 GT eclipse AWD and twin turbo. Test drive until your sick but true greatness comes from practice and from that you learn to appreciate the 13bt the 4g63 and the JZa80. :mrgreen:

posted by  TDash

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