ok, if im looking for a 95-99 eclipse with any type of mile under 150k, perferably a turbo'd version (GS-t, GSX), what could i expect to be looking at price wise? under 10k? under 5k? and im just asking from what youve seen or heard, or just what you think the car's value is rele worth
Shit if you got a turbo with over 100k you would have to rebuild it
Probably 5-10k depending on condition and year.
I paid $7500 for mine, the engine had 700 miles on a rebuild, the car had
88,500 miles on it. Realistically, I overpaid, but it was worth it to me.
Mine's a '95 GSX with all options except ABS and AT (leather, changer,
sunroof, 5spd, etc). Expect to pay a fair bit more for a manual
transmission car (the AT's don't hold their value).
For a good car with miles around 100K, I'd say about $6-$7K is a pretty reasonable deal. It's really not uncommon to find them in the $4500-$5500 range, especially if you're willing to get a Talon instead of an Eclipse (better looking car anyway). The Talons are generally a fair bit cheaper than an Eclipse.
This should give you a starting point:
http://motors.search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&s aspi=2&from=R10&samcm=6028&catref=C12&catref=C6&satitle=%28gsx%2C+tsi%29&sa cat=6001%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fts=2&fsop=9%26fsoo%3D2&coaction=compare&c opagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=&a39=-24&a38v1y=&a38v2y=&a10239=-24&gcs= 13&pfid=2473&reqtype=1&pfmode=1&alist=a39%2Ca41%2Ca38v1y%2Ca38v2y%2Ca10239% 2Ca3801%2Ca85%2Ca10246%2Ca33512%2Ca10241&pf_query=%28gsx%2C+tsi%29&sargn=-1 %26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=97520&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=
Just curious. If you already have the 3kGT, why buy an eclipse?
Second car. Once you really get into the game and live alone youll want the same thing. Good car, and then a neon for the wintertime. :laughing:
um, why the hell would i want a fwd drive car in the winter? and ya, im
getting it after i sell my 3kgt, this thing aint got enough life in it to
take me thorugh college. And yes i know that 95-99 models will have worn
out turbos, thats why the first thing i would plan on doing is a 20g trubo
swap =P, after the nessescary premods of course.
also, when i move to college i plan on owning two cars, a truck for hauling/winter/picking up chicks that like trucks , and a nice fast, lowered sports car, hence the eclipse.
There is no specific reason a turbo would be worn out in 100K miles. Many turbos last much longer than that. They operate under the same principle as the journal bearings in your motor. Unless the turbo is abused, it could be in perfect operating condition at 100K miles.
would u rather have a rwd car in the winter? :screwy:
He would probably rather have a 4WD pickup or an AWD Eclipse... just a thought...
find me a rwd eclipse, and i will slap myself in the face
The fastest 4 cyl car in the world is a 6 second RWD 4G63 Eclipse
6.92 in the 1320 if memory serves.
So thats more like 7 is it not?
Once again, bullsh*t being passed of as facts. The fastest and quickest
four cylinder quarter mile car THAT I AM AWARE OF, is the Paradise Express
turbocharged, VW engined dragster of Kris Lauffer. It's run 6.60 and
203.98 in the 1/4. Just a bit quicker than opinion boys numbers. This
isn't the best pic but it's the only one I can find.
I'm sure that somewhere out the another car might be faster. I'd be interested to see it.
And that thing runs on 4 cylinders?
Four cylinder, horizontally opposed, air-cooled.
very cool :drool:
Hmm, is that a production I4?
What is your point, assclown?
Just for my own curiousity, is any portion of that motor an OEM piece? I'll assume the case has at least been strengthened, but is it by chance billet?
Maybe the oil fill cap. The case isn't billet, but it is an aftermarket piece.
That it's time for him to backpedal again and say that when he said, "The
fastest 4 cyl car in the world is a 6 second RWD 4G63 Eclipse." he actually
said, "The fastest 4 cyl car in the world (with some factory parts in its
block, and in a body that resembles a production car) is a 6 second RWD
4G63 Eclipse, therefore that VW doesn't actually count as rebuttal."
*slaps self in face*
ok, now find me a rwd eclipse that i can get and drive on the street and in my price range and then i will hit myself in the testicles
That's gonna hurt.
i have a feeling that isnt in my price range/not for sale
phew, testicles are safe
I can't imagine it not being in your price range, he just welded up a gear in the transaxle and removed the front driveshafts (plugged the holes). But I don't think it's for sale... you got lucky :mrgreen: .
that is pretty cool though
good luck finding a rwd eclipse...i have NEVER seen a rwd eclipse for sale. get an awd...but if you are concerned with price, go for a 2g talon tsi awd. they are the exact same car, minus a few visual parts. i never understood why they r usualy found cheaper than eclipses tho.
Hey, you're a pretty sharp one, aren't you. :wink2:
What's that supposed to mean??
I honestly have never seen one for sale...i've seen them...just not for sale...the only one's i HAVE seen 4 sale are the AWD's and FWD's
Really? I mean are there alot of RWD Eclipses where you live?
not really, hence the reason i rarely see them...it's kinda suprising tho, considering st. louis is a big DSM town.
So like what years did DSM make RWD Eclipses and Talons?
well it's my understanding that they never did, but people modified there's to make them rwd...i only know of fwd and awd being produced.
Thank god you answered that one correctly or you woulda been deemed the dumbest noob (other than M3 kid whatever) on the forum :doh:
well see that is the difference between me and him...i know what i'm talking about...mostly when it comes to dsm cars. i am big into cars, and am part of a pit crew for a guy that drag races a 91 talon that runs low 11's right now. so i know what im talking about.
trust me, what points you gained for yourself when you let us know you knew
there were no factory RWD eclipses, you just lost. :doh:
vwhobo was just testing to see if you knew what you were talking about. he knows his stuff too.
ok...sorry i was just comfiming what you said. didnt think i would get bashed for being right
Really? I had to read that twice before I caught it. So where does this guy "drag race" his "11 second Talon" and what exactly do you do on the "pit crew"?
no, you'd get bashed for this, "well see that is the difference between me and him...i know what i'm talking about". :wink2:
well im not gunna deny the truth.
are you saying vwhobo doesnt know what he's talking about?
well, he "drag races" his "11 second talon" at Gateway International Raceway right near St. Louis, MO. as part of the pit I do the tuning, and repairs (as needed). i also am at his house anytime he wants to do somthing with it to help him, but thats more like a friend helping a friend.
What class does he race in and when you're tuning, what is the gap on the plugs?
no i'm not...where would you get that idea from??
oh, by "him" you mean the M3 kid.
he runs in the 4-cyl fwd/awd class. we usuall put the gaps on the plugs at about .020-.022....too much higher, we might have som misfires. so far so good tho
Heads-up or bracket? What are his 60's?
ok im confused....restate ur question. :doh:
usually heads up...his best 60 was 1.482
"well see that is the difference between me and him...i know what i'm
the "him" in that statement is the_m3_kid, and not vwhobo, which i initially thought since you were talking to vwhobo about the eclipse.
GOTCHA! :thumbs: i kinda get confused sometime. lmao...and yes...i was talking about m3 kid
Well, that's all pretty good, but Gateway's own website (http://www.gatewayraceway.com/dragracing/drag_results.php) doesn't say anything about such a class. It seems that somebody might be confused. Maybe we should contact their webmaster. :doh:
well, it's not a pro class (if thats what you're thinking). they do street
legal grudge racing there. and they divide it into classes (i.e. 4cyl
fwd/awd, 4cyl rwd, trucks, v8, v6, etc.)
Anyway, they run qualifying for a few hours, then they have the top 2 in each class go head to head and see who wins...the overall ranking got him tied with the most victories with an srt-4. this is pretty good considering he blew his rearend and was out for a few weeks, then his throttle body went bad, and he couldnt run his top times anymore. but now that the season is over, we will work on that.
Classified grudge racing? That is a contradiction of terms. Grudge racing equals run-what-u-brung and do your deal in the pits. Very unusual.
yeah...i see what you mean...and that is exacly what it is. (run-wat-u-brung). but for the more serious racers, they have classes for them to accually compete. they just got tired of people street racing...it's kinda their way to reduce it, and make it safer for them...it has accually worked.
I once had my Eclipse converted to RWD with a viscous eliminator at AMS Performance (before they got an AWD dyno). Does that count? :laughing:
Finally came sniffin around again, welcome back :wink2:
Yes, what did your car put down RWD?
Something like 280HP/215TQ at the rear wheels. Don't quite know what that is on all 4 wheels, but you get the idea...
Actually, I was just wondering.
Just wondering? Just spreading your own special brand of bullsh*t is what
you mean. These are pretty specific statements made by you;
That my little Twink was not wondering, it was attempting to pass off BS as fact, and once again you were caught. This time by more than one person. Why don't you go hook up with your butt buddy Chad5.0 and leave this forum like you promised?
No the question about whether it is a production I4 was what he was just wondering. I know even YOU caught that vwhobo.
Then why did he quote a post that says nothing about a production I4 engine? Someone is having reading comprehension or critical thinking difficulties, and I can assure you it's not me.
I didn't quote any post you ****ing idiot. I really was just wondering if
it was a production four cylinder. I don't see why you have to be an
asshole and overcomplicate shit for no ****ing reason.
The reason I said it was the fastest four cylinder car in the world is because thats what I read on the site it was posted on.
Really? Eventhough he didn't quote the post? Seems you are the one with the reading comprehension difficulties. And nowhere does it say he edited his post, because he didn't. Think Type Submit.
I'm a f*cking idiot? You're the f*cking idiot. Look at your post, #66 and tell me you didn't quote a post. You have to be the stupidest person on earth. :banghead:
Make that co-stupidest person on earth. You also need to look at post #66. Moron.
What the **** are you talking about Hobo. I have great respect for you but
you are making NO ****ing sense. Post # 66 he quated what ChrisV THOUGHT
Pontiac fan meant by ASKING about it being a production I4 or NOT. Then you
quote him and say jsut wondering? No you say he was attempting to pass off
bullshit. How was he attempting to pass off bullshit when he was replying
to ChrisV NOT what he said was the fastest 4cyclinder. :screwy: THINK TYPE
EDIT: Let me make it clearer ok Twink? He said he was JUST wondering about whether the 4cyc you showed was a production or NOT. That has NOTHING to do with what he THOUGHT was the faster 4 cyc. Understand?
..........Come on Hobo it doesn't take this long to reply.
I don't buy his bullsh*t or yours either. The post he quoted, which you
just a few posts ago said he didn't, said nothing about production or OEM
engine parts. IF in fact that was the case, why didn't he quote this
I can't come up with a good answer either. The purpose of quoting a post is so other readers will know what you are responding to. You and he have both been on forums long enough to understand that. That would be like me doing this;
I think your house would look great painted green with brown trim. :thumbs:
It just doesn't make sense. There is certainly a reading and comprehension problem on this forum, but it's not mine.
Really now? You don't buy my bullshit? Well if factory parts is the same as production parts then what I say is not bullshit by your logic is it?ChrisV said in the post quoted by PontiacFan "(with some factory parts in its block, and in a body that resembles a production car)" SO I still don't see what your saying. Why didn't he quote the other post? Because ChrisV's post was directed solely at him. Why did you just now quote my post? Because my post was directed solely at you. I don't see any reading comprehension problems here but your own. :thumbs:
Have it your way. I don't have the time or energy to play sh*t this anymore. If you're so interested in the truth, why aren't you on PantiacFag27's ass about his "facts" concerning the fastest four cylinder car. From my end it looks like your more interested in arguing than people getting their facts straight.
Not really, I'm more about understanding what people mean in their post, and what they are tryign to say, and it is quite obviosu what PontiacFan was saying...... The ONLY thing I was arguing about.... was what PontiacFan was meaning when he said he was just wondering... he wasn't just wondering that the time was 6.97 or watever... that is what he THOUGHT it was, and you proved him wrong. End of that, ALL he was referring to was that he was just wondering if the car's engine in the fastest time that you posted, was a production I4 or not... and I know I'm not the only one who can see that...
Um... okay... whatever you say. But here's the thing. This...
... is a statement. There is no interpretation, no trying to understand what he said, no question involved. It is a statement, plain and simple. Oh yeah, at was also incorrect. Something that neither you or he are willing as of yet to acknowledge. And after all, that is how this whole arguement in this thread started. Sorry, those are the facts whether you like them or not.
I didn't quote a post when I asked if it was a production 4 cylinder. I quoted ChrisV's unnecessarily flame-filled post in response to what he was saying about me. But you still haven't answered my question. Is the engine in that car a production 4 cylinder? Or do you just not know?
Actually, I have answered the question. If you spent more time reading the thread instead of making up information, you might have seen it. So how about that picture of the worlds fastest four cylinder car that is supposed to be an Eclipse. I'd sure like to see that.
I was wrong about it being the fastest 4 cylinder in the world. I'm not
arguing that asshole. I'm not arguing anything, I WAS just wondering if it
was a production 4 cylinder.
The website that has the video of the Eclipse's run said it was the fastest 4 cylinder in the world. I had no previous knowledge of the car you posted.
Heres the link for the video of the Eclipse
Ya know what. Instead of being prideful and hard headed you could have
just told us that that's what the site said and then linked us to it, then
we could have settled this two days and 60 some posts ago. You had plenty
of opportunity to do so.
It runs an Autocraft five piece case which is based on an almost 70 year old VW design. I wish I could find a picture but I've come up dry. There's about as many production parts in it as there are in a Top Fuel hemi.
Thats what I have been trying to say.
I think this is the fastest 4 cylinder car that I'm aware of:
I give up. I'll play your silly game. Where in that article does it provide any hard numbers? It does say "The Type R drag car and Max-4 powerplant are designed to deliver 250 mph and 5.50-second quarter-mile performance on alcohol and nitromethane", but there's a world of difference between being designed to do something and actually doing it. Until it's on a track and actually runs the numbers, it's just another design concept.
Yeah hobo is right, as much as I love the idea of a 4 banger drag car that can keep up with the v8 boys they haven't really run those times yet, when they do I doubt they will run the times they're claiming though it will still be quick mine you.
Five piece case.... wow.
Where did my post that you quated have ANY flaming? Necessary or
Flame filled? Show where there was any flame filling.
"You're just an ignorant ass that would rather have an opinion than learn any facts."
THAT's a flame post.