93 Eclipse GS intake -Help needed-

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Well, I figured I'd buy a cheap aftermarket intake for my 93 Eclipse just to see if it would improve the performance at all, so I bought this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8034635322&ssPageN ame=STRK:MEWN:IT). Now, the problem is -- I had to take out the mass air flow and now the check engine light is lit as well as it idling at 1400RPM. Obviously, this is due to the fact that there's no MAF, but what can I do as an alternative? The car is old, and I spent a lot in repairs, so I dont really want to spend a crapload just for an intake, which is why I got the cheap one...but now that I have it, I would like to figure out a way to use the thing without problems.

Thanks in advance.

posted by  FeaRx

Your engine needs the MAFS to run, don't remove it... period. I'm rather impressed that your car will run at all since you removed it, my car won't run at all without it installed (neglected to hook it up after working on it once). Now there's nothing wrong with wanting to give the air an easier path to the motor, but you must have the MAFS installed. I'm guessing that you installed it wrong, the filter doesn't go directly on the end of the tube, the MAFS goes in between the filter and the tube (my ex-GF had a similar car, I'm trying to recall the setup from memory).

posted by  Bino

Im waiting for Hobo to tell you to shoot yourself. BTW if you do get it to work, get a K&N cone filter I hear they are worth the money.

posted by  newyorker

Yeah, I understand that, but the MAF tube is a good 2 feet long, and its bigger in diameter than the intake tube -- it wont fit in tube or filter. Does this mean I got a bad intake, since I went the cheapest route? If so, can you direct me to one that would be custom-fit to the car?

posted by  FeaRx

No...K&N is bad...never get K&N filters...they don't filter properly

posted by  Golddragoner

Youre stupid right?:screwy: Maybe its because there is a special oil that needs to be applied to them that you are forgetting!?!?!

posted by  newyorker

they really dont filter right, they let more through then they should, thats the only reason they help so much with power. I own a kn airfilter so i have to change the filter before i go in for warranty work.

posted by  bebopin64

So what. You get more power, so you put the stock filter back in for the times you need it. If you have a MAF, it will adjust the air/fuel ratio accordingly.

posted by  newyorker

no, its bad how much they let thorugh just as how good it is, you get a lot of dirt and grime coming through the K&N fliters and thats bad for your engine, but it also alows more air which is good, so its a trade, your engine will not last as long (unless cleaned regurarely) but you get much better performance out of a stock intake setup

posted by  ride3k

Pictures -- to help you better understand the problem:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9261/dsc010035hp.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc010035hp.jpg) Mass air flow tube, with the MAFS at the end.
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/6691/dsc010052ld.th.jpg (http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc010052ld.jpg) Intake setup
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/8374/dsc010072cm.th.jpg (http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc010072cm.jpg) The problem

The third picture is a little blurry, but you can still obviously see how the MAFS isn't going to fit in the tube. I feel like I'm missing something that's right in front of me, but cant seem to figure it out. Any help with this is appreciated.

posted by  FeaRx

I say just put your MAFS back on and leave it alone cause you just confusing you ECM and losing HP.

posted by  x1/9-rally

Well, I just swapped it out and put the MAFS back in and whatnot, but I'd rather have an intake, because even without the MAFS, I could tell it had some more balls behind it, but on a cold engine, the engine didn't know what to do with itself and would hesitate to shift.

Basically, I know I need either an MAFS adapter for the intake, an intake kit that can compensate for my MAFS, or an aftermarket MAFS -- and I don't know where to look to get either of these...which is why I came here to ask.

posted by  FeaRx

Never herad of that before. All I know is that NOTHING can be done with the stock air box setup on my car, because its just set up terribly.

posted by  newyorker

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