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Ok, what would you say is the most tunable Japanese car, it can be anything
at all. Obviously, some CFers will chose the Impreza :hi: ...so what else
has alot of room for potential? I recon the obvious choice is the Skyline,
from the R32-R34, having said that though, the newest shape Toyota Supra
can been tuned to in excess of 1500bhp!..and it's RWD :hi: ...So that's my
choice, the latest Supra model, twin Turbo too :drool:
Cliffy
between supra and skyline, skyline wins, its got that fantastic AWD
system.
Also, i would think that the 350z will be a force in the hp wars, once a
reliable twin turbo or sc setup comes stock from nissan. Greddy already has
a nice kit, but it would be nice to have nissan install their own before
selling the car.
importluva
beats me...i'm not a fan of imports, myself. heince the fact i have a Neon.
SuperJew
Impreza Folks!!
StiMan
i dont know if you could get the evo up to the hp levels of a supra or
sumthing
but its got wicked handling and AWD
nitehawk_87
my choice is the evo. This month's issue of sport compact car (actually i
think the june issue, but i'm not sure) got me hooked one them. Pressing
500bhp in a 4 cylinder (472 i think was the highest) after 2 days of tuning
is impressive to say the least, even if it is done by tuning companies
(sparco & apexi teamed up on one, as an example). Even so, the evo gets my
vote :2cents:
(edit b/c i am stupid and forgot to put what magazine... i should
proofread)
JeffGodOfBiskut
In an Australian import magazine I have, it has an Evo 3 that has 705 hp
and does a 9.28 quarter mile.
abless
i rest my case :thumbs:
JeffGodOfBiskut
was that the one where they raced it against the 911? that was nice...
anyway, im gonna go with the skyline
SilverCivicSi98
I would say you could pump the most hp out of an evo, supra, or skyline,
but if I were to own any of those, I would pick the RX-8 (I know, it's not
on the list).
abless
Whatever you buy, drop an Autronic in to realise the max potential
Wally
whats an autronic? :ohcrap:
SuperJew
hopefully the mazdaspeed version will be out soon. then maybe a redesigned
rx7 will be released.
importluva
Post whore... :fu:
Id go with the Supra... by far the most tunable car in the list.
mazdaspeed
Do you mean a Mazadaspeed version of the RX-8? That would be sweet.
abless
.........
Wally
He has over 1k posts, he has no reason to post whore... How dare you do
that to SJ! :fu: (That is to mazdaspeed)
StiMan
yea i do. i think mazda said something about releasing it here in the US.
Here is a little info thanks to import-heaven:
"Mazda Motor Corporation announces the release of a limited edition RX-8
Mazdaspeed Version, which is based on the RX-8 and fitted with Mazdaspeed*
brand tune-up parts for enhanced sports driving performance. The RX-8
Mazdaspeed Version goes on sale from the middle of February at Mazda Anfini
and Mazda dealerships throughout Japan.
The new RX-8 Mazdaspeed Version is based on the RX-8 Type S. Mazda has
tuned up the engine using it's exclusively designed PCM (Powertrain Control
Module) to match the modified intake and exhaust systems of the Mazdaspeed
Version, as well as going through balance adjustments around the eccentric
shaft in response to the lightweight flywheel. Mazda has also tuned up the
suspension and fitted aero parts to further enhance sports driving
performance. Those modifications, carried out under Mazda's strict quality
control system, provide the RX-8 Mazdaspeed Version with well-balanced
performance.
In addition, the RENESIS rotary engine has been further improved to deliver
greater aerodynamic performance and even better sports car driving
performance. Sharp, stable maneuverability is further enhanced while
maintaining ride comfort, and the vehicle's exterior design supervised by
the RX-8 chief designer expresses high performance.
The sales volume of the RX-8 Mazdaspeed Version will be limited to 300
units."
doesnt say much, but it doesnt look like it has f/i.
theres more info about US version here
(http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?p=660860#post660860)
importluva
ya no shit stimans right we need to have a newbie to newbie talk during
which u make excuses and i call u a dumbass :fu: :fu: - udont dis ur
elders :thumbs:
nitehawk_87
now what we have here is a true dumbass...i'm just not gonna touch this. if
i were a post whore, i would post every single word in a different post.
just because i post my opinion in a forum does NOT mean im a post whore. it
means i have an opinion at odds with the topic, and i want to share it. how
about in every single post of yours i respond with "post whore!!!" yeah,
that sounds like a good idea. :fu:
SuperJew
Really....people who just respond 'Post whore' to a previous post are post
whores for doing so lol....Oh crap....that makes me a post whore....but I'm
allowed, as are other mods, because we have to warn n00bs about it, right
guys? :ohcrap:
Cliffy
[INSERT PIMPSLAP] Lol...
I dunno Cliffy... :thumbs:
StiMan
lol, i think the "most tuneable" should go the evo, since its a 2.0L 4
cylinder, and you are getting near 500, and if you spend more you can get
over 500. (but, we are talking serious money here) The Skyline and the
Supra are both impressive, but they have bigger engines. But, i have
HEARD(jus rumors ppl) that you can get a Skyline over 1500hp. I'm not sure
if this is with or without switching to methanol. I don't know where i
read this, but i heard that the Veilside Skyline was in a convention, and
it was smoking ferrari's and a 900hp Supra. Even with the ATTESA system,
that thing still had to be running around 800-900 or even more. Anyways,
dat my :2cents:
aerith
my opinion is the supra is by far the most tunable rice rocket in existance
to this date. ok, so maybe one guy made a skyline that can kill 900hp
supras, but how many Supras are out there that can kill such skylines?
nowadays, its VERY common to see such power levels on the 2jz's, while in
all other cars, its not even as close to common. lets not forget one other
factoid, the 2JZ holds the record of the most HP with a bone stock bottom
end, which was at around 900hp if im not mistaken (correct me if the
numbers r wrong, but im sure it was around that or more). thing is, u have
to take everything into consideration, bone stock engine performance and
peak output, wat u can produce with strengthened internals, etc. plus, u
have all been to the pro drag competitions right? with all the imports?
just look at team streetglow and both of their solaras with 2jz's powering
them, there is just no way to beat them. dont get me worng, i love the
skyline, and the skyline is by far probably the most technological advanced
rice rocket due to its ATTESA system and its ability to compete with the
Supra like no other rice rocket. those 2 r the kings of their scene, but
im sorry, the Supra has proven itself far more than the skyline up to this
date. wat makes it better is how it can either be the skylines equal, or
better without all the technological advances.
Inygknok
You need at least 3 paragraphs for it to become an accepted opinion.
No less!
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BavarianWheels
lol fine, heres my 3 paragraphs
you
are a
post whore
:P
there, happy now?
PS: if this is not where im supposed to call u a post whore, well, sorry
then, and be sure to tell me when am i supposed to do so.
Inygknok
It wasn't meant for you n00b...it's an inside joke. Deal with it.
Plus...that's only 6
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BavarianWheels
ok so why did u bother quoting me n replying to it?
also, ill just indent next time....
like this..................
Inygknok
.shkdgws.khi thought this was indenting
and where are you from in Puerto Rico?
SuperJew
i tried making lots of spaces with the spacebar to indent since Tab doesnt
work..... guess spaces dont work either :P
im from the metro area
Inygknok
Regardless of how much tech is put into a car, the skyline is still capable
of being tuned to levels as high as the supra. This still qualifies the
skyline as a highly tunable car, maybe even more than the supra.
I would guess that the tuner bias to the supra will change as the skyline
arrives in North America. We have many hungry tuners itching to get their
hands on a Skyline here, so maybe that will even the odds.
importluva
Whomever picked the name Skyline...I hope is fired already! :doh:
:banghead:
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BavarianWheels
im sure that person has aged a lot and retired or is already dead!
importluva
Oh...that's true...it's an old name.
My bad...name should be changed. It's like putting the Camry name on a
"Supra" type car...I'm gathering from all the hoopla of this otherwise ugly
car. :banghead:
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BavarianWheels
haha. i can just imagine how the rednecks say 'skyline' in my part of the
country
importluva
The Supra has the greatest potential for a standard production Japanese
engine.. It can produce about 1500bhp before cooling becomes an issue.. The
skyline come a close second with its RB26DETT engine that can handle about
1400bhp.. However replace this with the RB30DETT engine (see my name!!) and
it will handle about 1600bhp without severe internal modifications..
:thumbs:
R34RB30DETTV
so the rb30 engine is not in any production vehilces?
importluva
I think it's still in production vehicles, it's just (VERY) detuned lol...I
might be wrong on that one though, as my knowledge of engine codes aint all
that great :ticking:
Cliffy
I would have to say Supra Twin turbo.
The RB26DETT comes a close second.
the thing is some people think its cheap to mod a skyline from a 280 BHP
car into a 1000+BHP monster. its fairly easy to get 500BHP but somthing
completely unrealistically expensive and undrivable on road will get you
1000BHP at the FLYWHEEL.
For thoose who ever think about getting +1000BHP for your skyline. first
think about this
Think about methonal for now on. petrol anit gonna get you anywhere
else
Think about the inefficient TT system with power outputs like that
think about the hundreds of drivetrains you chew out
Think about buying new engines because you keep launching the #2 piston
through the side of the engine block and into orbit.
Lukaz
In my oppinion the Honda civic is the most Non-Tuneable rice rocket in the
world every where i go i see some riced out totally slow ass Civic with a
big fart can and lots of stickers! So that would be my desicion :screwy:
BUt i have heard the Skyline can get a max HP of 1500AWHP
87TurboII
point of fact for ya. rb30dett engine only exists in modified form.
rb30 was the engine from the OLD skyline taxis, you might know it as the
r31 skyline.
the only performance version that comes to mind for me is here in nz where
they took the rb30 block and dropped on the rb26 head and barrel. stuck
that to the r33 gts25t manual gearbox
throw that into an old gts4, then sent it up the track in 10sec ish. they
spent very little doing that and retained most of the internals from the
rb30 and rb26. very few aftermarket parts. that pushes out around 800hp@tw.
I think??
so the skyline is my pick next to the older evo's.
same with the mitsy as the nissan, both have a cast iron block. (or rather
"had").
Just bolt on more boost,
3.5" pipe straight through,
external waste gate,
bigger injectors,
heavyduty clutch and pressure plate,
bov,
pod filter (maybe give it a cold box too),
then there you go!!!!! 11sec 1/4 from an old evo2 no worries. before any
weight loss or tuning.
Internals rated to 450hp as standard.
Unlicensed
Very smart Guy we have here! :clap: well done matey im impressed. Ive seen
a few R31's. how many skyline Release's are there isnt there about 10 since
1957 - present.
Lukaz
i agree with a lot of people on that the skyline is one of the most tunable
rice rockets, but i think the honda civic started it all :thumbs: ever
since that 1 kid (or something im not sure how the story goes) cut the
coils off his civic, and bolted on a "fart can" muffler, it's turned into
an industry, body kits, race springs, coilovers, turbos and nitrous. Not to
mention engine swaps. And in the NHRA, where ppl thought only detriot
"muscle" could race the strips, the NHRA developed a sport compact racing
series, for both run what u brung, and pro rice rocket racing. :2cents:
:laughing: :clap:
allroundcarguy2
Very True some kid probably put some big ass fart can and lots of stickers
and painted his hood balck and started the whole revolution but the Skyline
GTR Spec V has been known for the most horsepower in a japanese car along
with the Supra TT's also have been know for horsepower i would like to see
a drag race between them both pushing out about a 1000hp. It would all
depend on the dirver. Another great tool in the skyline is the button that
turns off the awd so that you can have some fun in it so i would like to
see a 1000hp supraTT and a 1000hp Skyline GTR Spec V. That would be a good
race.
87TurboII
if only those 2 could handle just as daaaaaaamn good as an RX-7 with just
RWD..... now those would be examples of the perfect cars :D
Inygknok
very quick reply while the boss is out.
latest performance car mag has gtr v supra both pushing 485kws at the
wheels roughly (dont quote me on the exact power, but identical!)
i believe the skyline had the toyota pipped by a couple of tenths on the
1/4.
I'll go and check my records in a bit and edit later.
btw, I've got a big head now thanks to lukas! :oops:
see ya agian soon peeps!
okay! editing time! the cars both have 435kw at the wheels. and the r32
pipped the supra's et by 1 tenth of a second. the r32 is lighter and had a
2wd switch for the drags. given that, I'd say i haven't helped in the
slightest with the skyline v supra debate! sorry!
Unlicensed
The r34 Japtaxi has more aftermarket parts. easy to do up but very costly
as you need to replace most of the internals to make nice big hp
figures.
Supra motor is stronger in stock form.
But for most tunable.. Isn't that a car that responds very well to
modifications? A simple replacement of the exhaust or larger i/c? As for
most people, that's all they can afford.
As for twin turbo... Give me one nice big turbo anyday. :)
57ock
depends...... an easy car to tune is of course a civic... most
tunable,.,,., mostly any of the 90's supercars (twin turbo cars). anything
from 1500hp supras to 900hp rx-7s that weigh 2,000 lb's (im guessing that
theirs one out there)
jzxTT
