That's pretty much my question, but also, in your experience, which is
better for street racing (ie not just drag), so handling and stuff. If
there are better cars for this than these two used for about the same price
range 3000-4500 I'd be happy to find out about those too.
The 240sx is a very good drift car. It has good balance and handling. You say DSM, but which DSM?
In england we have the 200SX its either a 2.0litre or a 1.8 litre
(both turbocharged) the 240sx FR drive making it one of the best drift cars out there along with what my dad used to own the AE86! :smoke: aka corolla levin
DSM correct me if im wrong because im british and thefore we dont have theese cars except for the eclipse stands for Diamond star motors and you can buy three diffrent types
Also correct me if im wrong but DSM was named after the diamond used from the mitsubishi emblem and the Star from chryslers emblem?
There both great cars. so id say which one you prefer go for it :wink2: and good luck matey :thumbs:
The DSM I'm thinking of is a used one i saw for $2500, its a 1991
Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX. Probly sh!tty since its so cheap, but i dunno.
EDIT: 1991 Eclipse link (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=166689862&dealer_id=&car_year =1991&make=MIT&distance=75&max_price=&model=ECLIP&advcd_on=n&end_year=1997& min_price=&first_record=26&certified=n&address=98115&search_type=used&advan ced=n&start_year=1990&=&color=&cardist=2)
GSX is one of the more rare DSMs, its the turbo AWD version and a highly
sought out car. If you look here
dmunds.u.mipmake.pricetable.num4.1.mitsubishi*), you will see that they
don't have much value left. If it is in good condition, then surely go for
If i may suggest a few more in your area:
1993 Infiniti G20 (http://cars.com/go/search/fs_search_results.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchTyp e=21&cid=&dlid=&dgid=&zc=98115&makeid=20&modelid=&pageNumber=0&numResultsPe rPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+desc ending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_20_%7CB-4000%7CN-N%7CR-30% 7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-98115&aff=national)
1994 Mazda 626 w/ 6cyl. (http://cars.com/go/search/fs_search_results.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchTyp e=21&cid=&dlid=&dgid=&zc=98115&makeid=30&modelid=&pageNumber=0&numResultsPe rPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+desc ending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_30_%7CB-4000%7CN-N%7CR-30% 7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-98115&aff=national)
Thanks, that looks like a great site too by the way. So I've figured out
how much it would cost total if I were to buy that car and mod it according
to www.dsmtuners.com, about 4500. I've been trying for a while to figure
out how much it would cost to get about 300+ hp from the 240sx but i can't,
does anyone know the answer?
it really doesnt take much to get that much power out of a 240sx. if ur
going on a budget then the best way would be:
5 speed trans (early sylvias shared the same 5 speed with the 240's that have ka24's)
T28 turbo found in the S14 Blacktop engine
SARD or Denzo (forgot) 720cc top feed fuel injectors with new fuel rail (you can find the fuel rail for these cars at the same store you find the jets).
walbro fuel pump, the 255 one
steel braided fuel lines (cheap)
fuel pressure regulator (Aeromotive one for around $45)
ECU tune, can vary from $400-$600 for these cars, but its a damn good thing to get.
3" Downpipe with all the way 3" exhaust pipes.
New Air filter, i like the Apex'i ones (washable and offer the most power compared to other ones).
SPEC or ACT clutch kit - $300-$350
that's it really, i have seen more mods done and still maintain a cheap price, such as a new aluminum radiator which you can buy easily by selling the old one. also a new electric fan would be nice and it would get you some more power.
You say "it really doesnt take much to get that much power out of a 240sx",
so, how much power do you think i could get out of a 240sx with about
100,000 - 180,000 miles on it? Oh, and how much do you think that would all
add up to (edit: your first post, not the crazy power estimate)?
Yea, and thanks too man!
EDIT: Importluva, i just say your suggestions, might i ask why you suggest those rather than other cars?
i only posted once..... and redtop sr20's come with no more than 80k miles.
atleast i have never seen a redtop sr20 come with more than 80k miles on
if wat u want is to go ahead and keep the ka24de engine..... well i havent seen any up close in personal with full mods, and there arent THAT many out there with full out mods, *yet*. i have heard of various with very good results, but some more work is required. new camshafts, cam gears, i think valves, most possibly pistons and rods..... though it depends on the final power output.
i know for a fact new camshafts are a pretty must, and i would think about new con rods. probably would give valves a try. cant give you any exact info on the ka24de, sorry.
EDIT: on my first post, all the parts i mentioned are to achieve a 300 (probably more) hp output to the wheels with the redtop sr20det. you can get more out of it, but i was just giving you the rough sketch idea.
Heh, what i meant was your ballpark estimate for the engine swap etc. that you described, rather than when i asked how much power was possible. What do you think the ballpark cost of that whole engine swap thing you suggested?
it would honestly depend on wat u get, and where from. the one thing that does kinda kill things is shipping costs, but that applies with pretty much alot of things. unless you find a speed shop nearby that can get you the engine and will make a deal with ya. so far, i have seen these engines vary from $1,500 all the way up to $2,800. usually, it's a $2,200-$2,500 deal these days, but those are the costs from extremely well known shops that will offer you very good service and trust. some people will say its too much, but u get wat u pay for. also, by selling all your old stuff (the old ka24de, the old trans, etc.), you will get much of your money back. you could either get an engine kit or a front clip. doesnt matter which you get, they will both cost the same. for these cars, i really dont see much of a need to discuss which is the best one to get, as many of the well known shops sell the engine kits with everything you need, including uncut harnesses and transmissions. its pretty much up to you.
Well thanks dude, I think I might just get the eclipse because it is way
cheaper, but, like you said, you get what you pay for, maybe ill just save
up for the 240sx.
the 240sx can be just as cheap actually. if u want a new radiator, just sell the old one. new engine, sell the old one, so on so on. so u basically cut down on losses quite alot. another friend of mine is doing this, but hes the first one i have to help out on a tight budget. we are hoping to build the car to have ~300hp to the wheels with just around $3,000 worth of mods, excluding the car. thats about the same amount that would go on a DSM.
Wow, cool, looks like I'll have to save anyway seeing as i only really have
3500 for it right now. If your friend's 240 works out well and the part
list is different from the one in your previous post, maybe pm me it or
so far i have been involved in 3 of these swaps, but the owners of the cars
had already researched the necessary info and all went with s14 blacktops,
due to lower mileage and they had the money for it. im not changing any of
the previously mentioned parts, maybe just the fuel jets, but i prefer that
my friend goes with the top feed ones and the new fuel rail. any extra
work im telling him to do has to do with the head gasket, and the rest is
just being considered. but the parts mentioned are the definite things
being bought and installed.
the only extra things he is adding is a new radiator and a new fan that blows 2700 cfm, electric one. oh, and relocating the battery, but thats a stupid simple mod.
go with dsm. get a firs generation eclipse gsx its allwheeldrive so it handles very good has turbo and the average price for one in good condition is under $3000