What is your favourite car that was produced starting from this year
'MOVE OR BE MOVED'
Mine has to be the BMW M6!
the New Porsche 997 Carrera.
M6 or M5 sooo hard to choose.... :banghead:
Hmmm....I have alot :laughing: But I would have to say that its the Lamborghini Gallardo right now.
The new audis are pretty nice.
2005 Mercedes-Benz SLK
2006 Volvo C70
Aston Martin DB9, mmm yeah, driving one for 30 seconds makes my day... :thumbs:
The new M6 would probably have to get my vote :thumbs:
hmmmmm...... that's a tough one but i would have to say that it's the ferrari enzo :smoke:
No love for the new 997 guys? Come on!
BTW - for 2006 the Cayman gets my vote :2cents:
300hp affordable and sexy Porsche. I likely.
meh i dont like the new 997 all that much but the cayman on the other hand now that is one sexxxy car :smoke: :rock:
The 997 is wayyyy nicer than the last generation, mmmm round headlights all the way.
yes you are right it is nicer than the previous generation 997 but i still don't like the way they look i would much rather have the new cayman they look sharp as hell
I'm kinda torn between liking the new 997 and disliking it. Everytime I see one on the road, it gets my heart pumping. But the pictures make it look a little chubby and kinda ugly. I love the classic design of the original 911 though, Porsche should focus their styling more towards those models.
I'm gonna be boring and say the VW Passat :thumbs:
Any good reasons for that? :thumbs:
It's looks, engine technology and reliability....blue dashlights lol :laughing:
I really like the new Passat also. It's a good looking car with those crazy "not so standard features." The people at Volkswagen are genius.
Whoever said VW Passat, I agree. I have only word of praise for any VW. It
is also environment friendly. After I finish with weekend, I will try to
support passat more, but this would be it for now…
Here is the picture of older Passat, but nice as 2005 model..
I'm beginning to think I might be the only one on these forums who think the Passat is a POS. Am I the only one who has had heard of extremely bad luck with VW's?
I don't really like Passats either, although I kinda like the styling of the new one. It handles the new VW look way better than the new Jetta. The new Jetta looks like a Corolla.
I agree. The Jetta's styling is bland and too much like the Corolla's. The Passat is the finest of the new VW designs.
I think in general, VW's are great cars, in terms of build quality, reliability, and styling :thumbs:
LOL... I haven't noticed that untill you said it. You're absolutly right :orglaugh: .
I dont know, maybe it was just me who has driven several VWs and was not impressed with the build quality or from hearing stories from many others how awful they are to maintain. Matter fact if you go on a TSX forum you'll find a lot of converted VW buyers (Which I find funny), they all traded in their 1.8T Jettas or GTi's for TSXs because they were costing too much to maintain or were falling apart. IMO VW doesnt have the euro build quality as most other true euro brands like Porsche and BMW in general.
Maybe you are right, but I don't think that you can get any better from mass production. Maybe right car for your taste would be new AM V8 vantage. There you can find finalisation that meets your demand.
VW Jetta, Passat and Nardo are some of the best cars VW ever made. I love VW, i have a Passat '06. It's roomy, looks nice and handles like a beauty. It's better then the Maserati Quattroporte which i test drove a few weeks back. That cars handling isn't as goo but it has better style and engine!
And costs 3-4 times as much.
Is VW not a true euro brand?
What does the new Vantage have to do with anything? We're talking about passats and jettas here, and you go and recommend a $140,000 sports car?
Exactly, if you are discussing about cars of that type, you cannot expect too much. I have written that so it produces exactly the same reaction as you had.
VW has the european styling, FOR THE MOST PART. But... They are deifnatley
on the ass-end of realiability and quality from other Euro brand such as
BMW and Porsche.
Heck even the TSX employs more "euro esque" than any VW IMO. VEry sharp handling, very engaging engine, very euro styling and reliability with the best of euro manufacturers.
As for that, you are quite wrong. About 20 companies are better for build quality and long term reliability (backed up by statistics) than VW is. And they include such companies who sell TWICE as many vehicles as VW does in America.
Yes but just because they don't rank up with the big boys on reliability and performance, doesn't mean they aren't a true European brand. European cars don't HAVE to be good cars. Thats just a stereotype.
VW just isnt as euro to ME as they USED to be. The styling isn't as Euro as it was (Among other things)...it seems like Japanese brands are employing more euro styling than even VW is now. HEck take a look at the new Jetta, it looks like a bigger Corolla!
Please, provide us with those statistics… When it comes to sale, almost
every fourth car is VW. We drive many passats, polos, glofs, boras(European
jettas) and tuaregs. VW isn’t made by American taste, but it satisfies
European mid class taste.
If you have time, please look at the line of Audis (A4), VW (passat), and Skoda(Superb or even Octavia). Please, tell me your observations… Notice the similar shape and the lines.
I like the design of the Audi line. VERY european IMO. The new VW line
doesnt look like the Audi line...
You can even look up the statistics yourself, just find any JD Power LONG TERM RELIABILITY survey (3 years+ of ownership) or even INITIAL TERM RELIABILITY survey (first 3 months of ownerships) and you'll notice VW isnt high up on practically any of them. Jokingly here in America a bunch of people I know like to talk about how their VW is usually good to them in the first year, but their MKIII GTi or Jetta falls apart completey after 3 years... Then they went and bought an Acura :laughing: I'll post a few...
2003 Initial Reliability Survey -
VW is 24th out of 36 brands. With such brands as Dodge and Chrysler beating it out (ouch). Putting 23 name brands AHEAD of it.
2005 Long Term Reliability
Notice VW is fourth from LAST, putting it 32nd out of 36 brands.
2004 Long Term Reliability
VW 5th from last, 31st out of 36.
2003 Long Term Reliability
VW fifth from last again, 31st out of 36 yet again.
Also like to note VW hasn't had a car be one on the top 10 list of manufacturers for long term reliability EVER (that I know of or seen). And they have yet to have a vehicle that is the best in its segment (reliability wise) on JD Power. I was wrong on saying there are about 20 brand better than them, it seems I was wrong and should of said there are about 30 brands better in reliability over time than VW.
Bravo, I like when someone is determined to show he's right. You're right. Still it doesn't prove anything about Europe. We here drive diesels, statistics could be different here...
I agree, diesels are stronger engines that generally last longer than petrol engines do. It probably would be different there. But I was talking strictly America here :mrgreen:
Well, if you ask me about my type of car, than it is hatchback. I just adore Ford Focus, can't take my eyes of Audi A3 and will never stop to love OPEL ASTRA!!! My definite favourite for 2005 is ASTRA!!!!
Wow thats sad :screwy:
Wow I'm suprised to see that Porsche is ranked so high on problems per vehicle list, do the owners just fix everything and the problems don't get reported, or are they really that reliable?
From people I know Porsche tends to definatley be one of the better
European brands period. I know people with Jags, MB's and BMWs and they all
have way more problems with their cars than the Porsche guys have with
Don't know why this comes as a suprise, Porsche has been one of the European leaders in reliability for years.
What suprises me the most? I don't know when exactly Ford acquired Jaguar (or owned a bunch of its stock enough to control the comapny) but look at the drop off of reliability JAguar had...it's 2000 model year cars (shown in the 2003 list) did fine but everything after that was well belw the industry average. Didn't Ford Acquire JAguar right around then? If so, then I guess I was always right in saying Ford is ruining Jaguars quality.
You have not driven any Opel yet. Do not be negative about it when you do
not know the first thing about Opel. Opel is one of the oldest car makes
and their experience in car industry goes far beyond many other European
makes. It gives you exceptional driving experience even if you drive
Mercedes – Benz a few seconds ago. You feel the road underneath you like
no other car even though it is not sport make. An OPC version of Opel gives
you the feelings that you can get only from the opposite sex in most
private moments. Opel always takes care about nature, it is one of the most
ecological and its mpg is incomparable too. When we talk about Opel that
way, it can get personal (I am just kidding). Have you ever seen Calibra?
You can take as many Japanese cars as you want, but they are just junk
comparing to Calibra. That sporty design is supreme. I cannot wait until I
have enough money to buy another Opel. I live for Opel. Greatest team of
the greatest in Europe is Milan from Milan in Italy. Opel is their sponsor.
They know how to make things going. You can hardly find a car good enough
to drive it any way that you want. You can one moment drive it as a family
car, and in another to try to look like Sebastian Loeb on Spain’s tarmac.
It has nothing to do with overestimating - it is just great. To be more
precise, great is understatement. Many sport achievements are made under
the mark of Opel. Many cars’s design and motors from past are in
production even now, under different name in many countries. One of them is
legendary predecessor of Astra, great Kadett. Its remakes do not even use
new engines, just replica of old one. I had experiences that prove my
words. I won’t talk here about anecdotes here, but believe me they are
numerous. During the World War II, most of the trucks of German army were
Adam Opel’s, while Alfa Romeo was just a side truck factory for the
motorcycles. That experience cannot be denied. Even more, that history
cannot be denied. Look at the new Insignia, for instance. That is what I
call engineering. They have outreached themselves…