Does Idleing waste gas???

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Hello.

On my job I have to call in orders about 3-4 times a day. Usually I just get in my car and let the engine run for about 20 minutes each time. So total idle time is about an hour. How much gas does this waste on a 6 cylinder ford windstar? Also is it bad to leave the car running without actually driving it?


Thanks.

posted by  fordwindstar

Not sure about how much gas it would waste, but it won't really damage your engine unless it's really hot and/or your cooling system doesn't work...

posted by  chris_knows

No Chris, the correct answer is that letting your car sit and idle actually regenerates gasoline. As a matter of fact, if you let it idle long enough you're in danger of the gas tank overfilling itself. :wink2:

posted by  vwhobo

You bastard, you took the words right out of my mouth...err keyboard. :clap:

posted by  Sick88Tbird

I thought that was just on newer cars, and they didn't specify what year the car was :doh: lol

posted by  chris_knows

Haha, you guys are one group of 'special' people *emphasis on the 'special'* :wink2:

And yes, of course ideing wastes gas.. anytime your vehicle is running, it is wasting gas. I've been told that it doesn't use as much gas when just idleing, but others would tend to disagree.

As long as your vehicle doesn't have a tendancy to overheat, then letting it idle won't really hurt it (although why let it run when not needed?)... now if you're listening to a radio then if running it won't kill the battery but it wastes gas, but when not running it saves gas but kills the battery.


If I'm wrong on anything, then someone feel free to point it out.

posted by  car_crazy89

I may be wrong but

it depends on two things

1. size of engine ( well, obviously)

2.speed of idle,
the faster an engine is revving the more gas its burning so you can pretty much make a rough guess on that one

you shouldnt lose a big amount of gas though

posted by  nighthawk

Well I have yet to see a car with good VE at idle.

posted by  Wally

Let's just say this much...for the simpler folks...if your car is running(regardless of engine speed) and your car is not moving...you are achieving 0mpg...that sounds like a waste to me...but hey, that's just my school of thought :screwy:

posted by  Sick88Tbird

i read on msn the other day if your going to be idleing for more than a min shut it off cause you'll use less gas on startup than letting the car idle.

posted by  adamc44

the only times i believe that u should actually leave a car idling are the following (feel free to add any if i missed one):

1) 1-2 minutes of warm up on turbo cars (it's a MUST)

2) 1-3 minutes (depending on how u drove it) to cool down on turbo cars

3) in countries where it snows, depending on how bad it is, i guess 3 minutes is more than enough (and a bit too much sometimes) to let the car warm up enough to work in the cold temperature.

4) if your g/f or wife is truly bitchy, they'll want you to leave the car on just for the A/C.

5) after a big overhaul (ie: fixing the engine head) just to make sure nothing bad happens after a few minutes.


thats all i can come up with atm.

posted by  Inygknok

I think he might be running his engine to keep cool/warm, while he does the paperwork and call ins?

posted by  Wally

Idling does not waste gas, what would ever give you that idea? Because the engine is on? :screwy:

posted by  Pythias

Wise ass...lol

posted by  Sick88Tbird

What I found.

1. Idling is good for your vehicle because it warms up the engine and keeps it warm. True or false?

TRUE: Wrong! Idling can be hard on your engine because fuel doesn't undergo complete combustion, and some fuel residues condense on cylinder walls.

FALSE: Good for you! Idling can actually be hard on an engine because fuel doesn't undergo complete combustion, and some fuel residues condense on cylinder walls.

2. Idling wastes fuel and money and is hard on the environment. True or false?

TRUE: Right. Idling wastes an enormous amount of money because it burns fuel but doesn't get you anywhere. It's also hard on the environment because it produces needless emissions from the exhaust.

FALSE: Sorry. In fact, idling is an enormous waste of money because it burns fuel but doesn't get you anywhere. It's also hard on the environment because it produces needless exhaust emissions.

3. With the advanced emissions technology used in today's vehicles, carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from an idling vehicle are greatly reduced. True or false?

TRUE: Wrong. While it's true that automakers have succeeded in reducing emissions of hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and nitrous oxides, no technology exists for cleaning up emissions of CO2.

FALSE: Good answer! While it's true that automakers have succeeded in reducing emissions of hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and nitrous oxides, no technology exists for cleaning up emissions of CO2.

4. Idling contributes to the climate change problem. True or false?

TRUE: Right. Carbon dioxide (CO2) – the principle greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change – is a natural by-product of burning gasoline. Each gallon of gasoline that is used produces about 20 lbs of CO2. Therefore, every time you start the engine, you're contributing to the problem.

FALSE: Wrong. Carbon dioxide (CO2) – the principle greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change – is a natural by-product of burning gasoline. Each gallon of gasoline that is used produces about 20 lbs of CO2. Therefore, every time you start the engine, you're contributing to the problem.

5. Idling is needed on cold winter days to ensure that all of the vehicle's parts are warm. True or false?

TRUE: Sorry, the answer is "false." Many parts of the vehicle – including the wheel bearings, tires and suspension system – will warm up only when the vehicle is moving. You need to idle no more than 30 seconds to get the oil circulating through the engine.

FALSE: Another good answer. Many components of the vehicle – including the wheel bearings, tires and suspension system – will warm up only when the vehicle is moving. You need to idle no more than 30 seconds to get the oil circulating through the engine.

6. In winter conditions, emissions from an idling vehicle can be more than double the level of emissions immediately after a "cold start." True or false?

TRUE: Right. First, the engine has to work harder to circulate cold oil. As well, fuel combustion is much less efficient in a cold engine and the air-fuel mixture is richer – which means a sharp increase in pollutants. To make matters worse, until the converter reaches its peak operating temperature (between 400°C and 800°C), all of the engine's emissions pass through the exhaust untreated.

FALSE: Sorry, the answer is "true." Here's why. First, the engine has to work harder to circulate cold oil. As well, fuel combustion is less efficient in a cold engine and the air-fuel mixture is richer – which means a sharp increase in pollutants. To make matters worse, until the converter reaches its peak operating temperature (between 400°C and 800°C), all of the engine's emissions pass through the exhaust untreated.

7. Using a block heater helps an engine warm up quickly, which means less fuel consumption and fewer greenhouse gas emissions. True or false?

TRUE: Yes, block heaters can be a fuel-saving device because they heat the engine block and lubricants. This means that the engine will start more easily and reach its peak operating temperature faster. A block heater needs to be plugged in for only a couple of hours (instead of overnight) to do its job.

FALSE: The answer you're looking for is "true." Block heaters can be a fuel-saving device because they heat the engine block and lubricants. This means that the engine will start more easily and reach its peak operating temperature faster. A block heater needs to be plugged in for only a couple of hours (instead of overnight) to do its job.

8. Once a vehicle is running, the best way to warm it up is to drive it. True or false?

TRUE: Very good – driving your vehicle ensures that all parts get warmed up, and it doesn't waste fuel. Until the engine temperature begins to rise, it's a good idea to avoid high speeds and rapid acceleration.

FALSE: Sorry. Driving the vehicle is the right answer – that way, all parts get warmed up, and fuel isn't wasted while you're going nowhere. Until the engine temperature begins to rise, it's a good idea to avoid high speeds and rapid acceleration.

9. It's a good practice to shut off the engine when your vehicle is going to be stopped for more than:

a. 10 seconds
b. 10 minutes
c. 30 minutes

a: Right. More than 10 seconds of idling can use more fuel than turning off the engine and restarting it.

b or c: Wrong, the answer is "a." If you're going to be stopped for more than 10 seconds, you'll save fuel and money by turning off the vehicle and then restarting it when you're ready to drive away.

10. I should turn my vehicle off when I'm caught either in stop-and-go traffic or at a long stoplight. True or false?

TRUE: Sorry. While the 10-second rule is a good one, you can't avoid some idling. Turning off your vehicle in these situations might disrupt traffic. It could also cause you to speed away after you restart the engine, which would offset any fuel savings.

FALSE: The 10-second rule is a good one, but remember, you can't avoid some idling. Turning off your vehicle in these situations might disrupt traffic. It could also cause you to speed away after you restart the engine, which would offset any fuel savings.

11. Idling is a problem only in winter. True or false?

TRUE: Wrong – idling is a problem year-round. A recent study found that on any given day in August, Canadians idle their vehicles for a combined total of more than 46 million minutes per day – equal to one vehicle idling for 89 years. The problem is worse in winter, but there's never a good time to waste fuel and generate greenhouse gas emissions by idling your vehicle.

FALSE: Right, idling is a problem year-round. A recent study found that on any given day in August, Canadians idle their vehicles for a combined total of more than 46 million minutes per day – equal to one vehicle idling for 89 years. The problem is worse in winter, but there's never a good time to waste fuel and generate greenhouse gas emissions by idling your vehicle.

12. Which of the following are common reasons for idling:

a. warming up a vehicle
b. sitting in the drive-through lane of a fast-food restaurant
c. stopping to talk to a friend
d. waiting for someone
e. all of the above

a, b, c or d: Yes, this is a common "excuse" for idling, according to a recent study of Canadian driving habits and behavior. But so are all the others! The right answer is "e. all of the above."

e: Good answer. These are all "excuses" for idling according to a recent study of Canadian driving habits and behavior. And you can avoid all of them!

13. Making sure it's safe to drive the vehicle away is more important than reducing idling time. True or false?

TRUE: Good answer! Safety should always be your first consideration. Make sure that the vehicle's windows are clear of ice and snow and are defrosted before you pull away. To prevent your car windows from fogging up, clear snow from the air intake on top of the hood and open a window as soon as you enter the vehicle.

FALSE: Sorry, the answer here is "true." Safety should always be your first consideration. Make sure that the vehicle's windows are clear of ice and snow and are defrosted before you pull away. To prevent your car windows from fogging up, clear snow from the air intake on top of the hood and open a window as soon as you enter the vehicle.

14. Restarting my car many times, rather than letting it idle, is hard on the starter and other parts. True or false?

TRUE: Sorry, this is a common misconception. Studies show that restarting the engine many times has little impact on components such as the battery and the starter motor.

FALSE: Right. Studies show that restarting the engine many times has little impact on components such as the battery and the starter motor.

15. A poorly tuned engine uses up to 15 percent more energy while idling than a well-tuned vehicle. True or false?

TRUE: Right again! Whether you're driving a vehicle down the road or letting it idle in your driveway, a poorly tuned engine will consume more fuel – and generate more greenhouse gas emissions – than one that you properly maintain.

FALSE: Sorry, this statement is true. Whether you're driving a vehicle down the road or letting it idle in your driveway, a poorly tuned engine will consume more fuel – and generate more greenhouse gas emissions – than one that you properly maintain.

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posted by  MetalManiac

id shit my pants if that wasant copy/pasted lol

posted by  nighthawk

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