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I found this on another forum have a read:

Taken from news.com.au


SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans.
US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years.

Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject's veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution.

The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity.

But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock.

Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.

However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours,

But even a this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.
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Duing the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs' body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death.

Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved.

Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies,giving them 100 per cent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts.

Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage.

"The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology," said one US battlefield doctor.

posted by  GreekWarrior

What the **** :screwy:

posted by  99integra

Dunno found it, freaky.

posted by  GreekWarrior

I don't know if it's true, but it sounds cool...what if the scientists sneak into your house at night, and make you a zombie, that's my new nightmare :orglaugh: :ohcrap: :orglaugh:

posted by  chris_knows

I think thats worse than abortion.

But hey, im a liberal so don't listen to me because I want to eat your children and suck your blood. At least thats what fox news told me...

posted by  Zalight

GO BUSH :thumbs:
http://www.ianai.net/jokes/forumpix/Bush,%20hit%20it.jpg

posted by  99integra

Yeah, because EMTs shouldn't be able to do this:

posted by  ChrisV

great so now all those movies about zombies that scared the crap out of me as a kid are coming true. i'm going to laugh when all these people die and come back to life as zombies and start killing everyone, and then all the people that they kill come back to life and start killing everyone intil everyone is a zombie except me then i'll have to kill all of you because you'll be zombies too!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :laughing:

posted by  enzo#2

Not in that sense, I'm talking about someone who is already dead being revived. If abortions are messing with gods plan how is that NOT messing with it?

posted by  Zalight

I don't think that's possible...yet, because the people's blood has to be replaced with a salt solution.
It would benefit mankind, but it seems eerie, although I'm certain that in 10-20 years if not less, this will be as common as an appendectomy.

posted by  chris_knows

Id hope not...

posted by  Satty101

can anyone say dawn of the dead?... haha, or how about shawn of the dead...

posted by  mazda6man

What would be worse is a Resident Evil type thing. Shit.... :doh:

posted by  FordFromHell351

that'd be kinda weird....

posted by  CivicR#1

Could you give me a direct link to this page Greek? Thanks.

posted by  FordFromHell351

IMHO, if it's really against god's plan and you shouldn't do it, he'd keep us from figuring it out... just my opinion

posted by  dodger65

I agree with this. Very good point Dodger :thumbs:

posted by  CivicR#1

When its your time its your time. Thats Gods plan. He wouldnt have set up something to where we cant figure it out. We could do whatever we like. God dosent want us to kill and maim people does he? But we do it anyway.

I think its wrong :oops:

posted by  FordFromHell351

I got it from another forum that got it form www.news.com.au , so I haven't got a link sorry.

posted by  GreekWarrior

...and that's fine, ford... really, no :oops: needed there... :thumbs:

posted by  dodger65

Okay, that is just screwy :screwy:

But I have to laugh, it looks like this is some religious forums thread... what about people who don't believe in god? Because then this wouldn't be messing with 'his' plan...





Disclaimer: I am NOT trying to start a flame war, I am merely making a point, being an Atheist myself. Not an extreme Atheist mind you, but just a non-believer of god. So please let me have my views and thoughts, and don't flame me for not believing in God.

posted by  dodgerforlife

Im a Buddahist, you know...the whole Zen thing?

But I merely brought up god because when talking about abortion, inevitably religon comes up, and wghen religon in america comes up, so does christianity and god...

posted by  Zalight

I myself am not sure what i believe. I've gone to a Catholic school pretty much all my life and they teach you about God but i am not really 'Catholic', never gone through the steps.

I think alot of people will say saving people this way goes against peoples beliefs or their religion but would your mind change if it was you it could save? I think it sounds kinda creepy but wouldnt mind it if it helps people.

posted by  car_crazy89

So if you would have died from your injuries if a doctor didn't treat you, is it against God's wishes to have the doctor save you, too? Is taking man made medication to cure, say, pnumonia against God's will, too? Why would it be God's will to save people from dying in all these millions of other ways, but not this one? More importantly, why is THIS way of saving someone's life against God's will, and all the other ways we save people from dying NOT against his will?

"God's Will" is a lame argument, and internally inconsistent.

posted by  ChrisV

Well, not to nit-pick, but all those things you talked about stop people from dying, this brings people BACK from the dead....

posted by  Zalight

The argument is that it's God's Will that you die at this particular time, and all those ways prevent you from dying, which was God's will. So either way, preventing them from dying when God's will was for you to die, or bringing you back from being slightly dead (remember, this has to happen almost immediately after death, much like any OTHER fom of resuscitation), it's against God's will. it's god's wil that we have the disease, so it's against god's will to use man made medicines to cure it. Especially when you would have died without that medicine.

And don't forget, tehre are numerous cases of people being brought back from being clinically dead, either though purely mechancial means 9like late CPR) or through medicine/surgery/etc. In those cases, people say "it's a miracle" when in fact, it's man made intervention that brings people back. This is no differnt in relation to "god's will."

No one's talking about reviving someone already dead, buried, and decomposing. They are talking about putting dogs (and maybe heavily injured people) into suspended animation. the solution is injected into the dogs BEFORE they are "clinically dead" which is what preserves them.

Just because some newsroom wacko decided to call them "zombie dogs" a group of people that can't seem to think logically get all afraid.

:banghead:

posted by  ChrisV

Hey, let's leave the religeon crap to Billy Graham and TBN channel with Tammy Faye Baker. This is about Zombie dogs and crap not God. :mrgreen:

My take: That's friggin unreal. Here's a good question though.....who's going to volunteer for the study?? LOL! Well I don't see it on urbanlegends website, however, no credible scientific website has produced a story on this either (or U.S. News). Probably a rumor that was started. If it really is U.S. scientists, it'd be everywhere.

posted by  97Talonchik

in my opinion, whatever happens in the world is all part of Gods plan, for better or for worse. it wouldn't happen if it wasn't part of God's plan.

posted by  enzo#2

Welp, I was wrong...here's a Fox News article on it...then again it IS Fox News... :laughing:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160903,00.html

posted by  97Talonchik

There's a lot of military medicine that didnt' take "volunteers" to get right. There were always a lot of war casualties that would have died anyhow if experimental medicine wasn't tried on them. I'd suspect that this would first be used on wartime injured that would have not survived in the field anyhow.

posted by  ChrisV

that's pretty much what i was saying, but i think your post is more concise...

posted by  dodger65

what's concise mean?

posted by  enzo#2

clear and to the point...

posted by  dodger65

oh. :mrgreen:

posted by  enzo#2

Should be interesting, I wish they would keep us updated on this and I'm suprised more papers haven't picked up the story. I think it's a big find in the medical field. I guess you're right about it being used on wartime injuries. It makes sense. Think of how many people could be saved if given the chance to get to a hospital. :clap:

posted by  97Talonchik

i no who woulda thought that sum10 like this would b able 2 happen

posted by  hhsrastler92

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