Whats the world coming to?

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Why is it, that in these times, everyone is so proud of their faults and vices? Why is it that people try to prove they are worse than someone else? I long for the good old days when people would be embarrassed by their faults and foibles. Now people wave a flag upon high and shout to the world exactly what is wrong with them, their character and their habits.

I remember an instance about a year back, I was sitting in a night school class, Algebra II. I had to take this because I, as I have stated before, had a little too much fun in high school, and as a consequence I had to sit in an un-air conditioned room for 4 hours, making up credits I missed out on. Anyhow, there was one, how should I say this, DEUCHBAG in my class who told me a very impressive story explaining why he was in the night school class, and why he was 19 and still only a junior. He had, as it turned out, once been in high school, but he dropped out in the middle of his junior year because "he didn't like the teachers". After he dropped out he started selling meth in order to pay for his own meth and potato chips. Then he started taking night school so his parents (also junkies) would get off his back.

It was not his story that impressed me, but the zealous, almost giddy attitude with which he proffered it. It was as if he was telling me he had competed in the Olympics and placed. I felt sickened by him. But I have realized that this sort of thing happens all the time. Not the dropping out to do meth, but the pride some show in their depravity. Another sort of strange, and disturbing, side effect that comes with this pride is the competition between these attention starved retards comparing whose the worst person.

A perfect example of one such competition also happened to me while at school. In my Honors World history two girls were talking and I happened to overhear their conversation. One was bragging about how she ditched a class the day before, the other retorted with the fact she had ditched the whole day. They went back and forth comparing their stories of mischievousness for a while and I got a damn headache from listening to them. They both had 4.0 GPAs and I knew this for a fact. My question is why, if you are so successful, you would want to brag about your shortcomings? I wanted to show them my report card and tell them some of my stories in order to "scare them straight" as it were.

But back to the matter at hand; what the hell is wrong with this world when being bad is considered good? Why are people so damn retarded?

posted by  Zalight

Because it is human nature to judge and people will do anything they can to talk about something. They will talk about anyting even if the topic is not needed. Which is more interesting, 'i got 4.0 and a new car" or "i got busted ditching school and got caught by the cops for truancy jailed then went and partied with my frineds" Its all about what would be more impressive and what people would rather hear.

posted by  Stem

I know exactly what youre saying man. I know this one guy, his name is Ryan Rose. He and I used to be friends back when I was in 6th grade and he was in 8th grade. He went to highschool, and I didnt have any contact with him for a little over 2 years. This summer I finally started talknig to him again, and he acted like he didnt even know me. He dropped out right after freshman year, because "it was just to hard" for him. Now, he doesnt have a job, he should be a junior, and he spends every little cent he gets from his parents on shrooms and marijuana. I tried to tlak to to him about getting back into school and stop following this ever popular druggie trend. His response was "**** you man, you don't even know me. You dont know shit."

If he wanted to, he could pursue the career of art. Hes great at drawing...yet hes to ignorant to even attempt it.

posted by  SlipKnoT

Yeah what is with that. Theres a bunch of kids that were at my school that were on drugs and seemed that school was useless to them. I would sit next to them in class and see how good they did in art and drawing. Talent that could turn their life around for the better. It's like do you have to take drugs to aquire this talent or something?

posted by  Spanky2324

Exactly. Instead of doing that, he tries to commit suicide because aparrently his life is just SO ****ING HORRIBLE.... :screwy: Nothing in life could be so bad for you to even THINK about killing yourself.

posted by  SlipKnoT

Theres a girl I talked to before who said she was gonna commit suicide cause her boyfriend broke up with her and she had nothing to live for. If she was in front of me I woulda slapped the shit outta her and told her to get over it thats not a reason to take your life away :screwy:

posted by  Spanky2324

And thats what pisses me off, the fact that doing retarded things is impressive, having a 4.0 is not.

posted by  Zalight

Thats just the society we live in. Im 17 so i see this stuff everyday, and people might say i hang out with the bad crowd so ive grown acustom to this. Kids think its cool to bullshit about all the things theyve done wrong. It's almost as if people respect you more for the more wrongful acts u have commited. Its one of those things u dont really notice until someone comments on it in forums like this.

posted by  A-cord

Guess what, it doesn't change in College either. I bumped into this girl I met last year. So we were chit-chating, catching up on summer and what we've been up to. I ask her if she had done anything interesting and do you know what she told me??? She says, (gigling the whole time) "yeah, I was at a couple of parties this weekend. I was drunk off my ass. Supposedly I drank 6 shots of Tequila after drinking 2 Jager bombs and 4 beers. My roomate says we went to 3 keggers later on and that I puked on the way to the 2nd :puke: . I don't remember a thing. I just remember waking up in some guys living room. Isn't that funny"???

I was disgusted. I literally felt sick to the stomach. I told her I was gonna be late for class and I would catch up with her later. Yeah right, never talkin to that ho again.

posted by  elchango36

It's the sympathy thing. They are trying to get attention and sympathy from you because that makes them feel better. I believe it is also from what they see in the entertainment and sports industries. Those people blame all the problems they get into on something they say they have no control over. Poor them. That is the message the media spins.

People like to have a crutch that they can blame sh*t on. More and more today it seems like people NEED to have a crutch.

People also like to brag because they think it makes them more interesting. But like elchango36's story, it just made him disgusted with her. Who knows what she was going for. To seem cool? To make him jealous? Because she thought it was really intersting?

Stem is right in that it is human nature. It's human nature to want to be liked, looked up to, cared for, etc... Now days having some sordid past is the way to get those things.

posted by  theman352001

Except for the sympathy thing I think that's exactly right. They don't see a problem that they need sympathy for if you ask me, they're just idiots. Just the other day at a lake party some girls were bragging about not being able to count how many guys they've made out with or whatever, and these are the "sheltered homeschoolers"! The media definatly is part of the problem, but another big one is these kids' parents. They sit back and practicly igonore thier kids, and when they do find out about something one of their kids has done, they sit them down and talk to them. Sometimes I wish I could sit these parents down and talk to them , but I'm just the stupid teenager... :2cents:

posted by  jedimario

You sound smarter than most of them. The girls in your example were doing the bragging thing and going for shock value. I experienced similar at a local pool hall where these girls were acting all goofy trying to impress the boys they were with. I was on the other side of the pool hall where normal conversation would not reach and this one girl says very loudly "if you want me to make out with her, I will" and then starts smooching with another girl.

Atention, atention, atention. Apparently it is harder to get now adays so kids have to be more shocking in order to get it. I agree with you also about parents not spending enough time with their kids. Parents seem to be too caught up with their own lives (me generation) whether it be because they have to work more to make ends meet or they just want to have fun also.

Heck, my parents went out once a week when my siblings and I were growing up. Otherwise they were home taking care of the house or working on their hobbies. They paid attention to us and stuck their nose into our business when they felt it was necessary. Sometimes we didn't like it but I can say now that I am glad they did what they did.

It scares me a bit to think about what the kids now days are going to do when they start raising kids. I don't see a silver lining to this cloud.

posted by  theman352001

People are retards...
Like this guy in my auto class always talking about the 4 kids he has with his GF and how she’s pregnant with yet another.

Like dude... your 25 you work at Walgreen’s and you have 5 f**king kids with a woman who isn’t your wife... you have 5 bastard children you stupid f*ck.
There’s a reason its taken you this long to get your GED and get into college,
Now stop talking to me.

I know what you mean I hate these people...

posted by  TheFieroKid

Yeah that's what I hear from alot of adults. How old are you, if you don't mind?


Same here, but then I also think that these are the people that I'll be competing with for a job.... :mrgreen: Don't get me wrong it's still sad, but I have to have something to make me optimistic.

posted by  jedimario

Old enough to know better and too young to care. Ok, that's a cop out. I'm in the mid 30's.


You may just have the advantage there. As long as they compete for the job fairly. Their behavior however makes me question their scruples and thus their ability to compete fairly. Hopefully I'm wrong.

posted by  theman352001

yeah but something else about them is that they're STUPID(for the most part). I don't think they'll be able to give themselves an unfair advantage b/c they'll be getting jobs from people like you who are smart.

posted by  jedimario

I wouldn't be too smart if I ended up hiring stupid people.

I guess I assumed that you were referring to people who had similar skills as you and thus similar education and perhaps intelligence. I would hope that you wouldn't be competing for jobs that THEY are qualified for.

posted by  theman352001

Whoops I meant triing to get jobs... :oops:

posted by  jedimario

Wow, good conversation.

But I think it all stems from the way they were brought up. Parents need to be PARENTS. It seems that now parents are or too apathetic to care for, and raise their children properly. And I don't think it can be blamed on the amount of money people have, or even how often the parents are around. My mom was a single mother working full-time and going to college full-time, She used to leave for school at eight in the morning and come home at 10 o'clock at night. I only got to see her in the mornings before I went to school. But I knew, even at 8 years old, that she loved me and was working hard to keep a roof over my head. Its because I knew this that I am proud to be her son. I barely saw her, But I still turned out to be a relatively well rounded person. And its because I knew that she cared for me and was working hard for me, so I tried to work hard for her, and THATS where the connection needs to be made with youth now and in the future. Children need to feel that even if their parents aren't around, or don't have much money that they are loved, and cared for.


If they feel they are worth something, then they will not practice self destructive behaviors, not just for themselves but for their parents who have worked so hard for them.

posted by  Zalight

It would also help if less people were like me in real life :ohcrap:

posted by  99integra

And what pisses me off is this shit going around.....
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html

posted by  99integra

I believe there is definetly a line between trying too hard and too little. I believe my parents have tried a little too hard to control my life, which only resulted in further alienation. Parents are NOT always right either. Often they think they're doing something for the child's own good, but is not in actual reality. Having the feeling of not wanting to go home because of your parents is one of the worst feelings/situations. It often seems they say nothing to you except the negatives. Parents should be more of a friend/mentor as opposed to an authority figure.

Grounding is the dumbest punishment I can think of. You've been bad, so now you can't have fun, excersize, or a normal life for a few days/weeks.

posted by  abless

http://www.breakingopenthehead.com/what_are_psychedelics.htm

posted by  abless

Im not saying this to be racist or anything, but black kids/adult just like to pick fights. Like last year when I got suspended for fighting this one little faggot who just couldnt seem to shut up about my girlfriend :evil:

posted by  SlipKnoT

They do tend to pick the fight cause I would be happy not to but if it comes down to that i guess i have to beat the shit out of him. Basically when I was in school last year it was like 95% black and you seen like ten white people including me.

posted by  Spanky2324

now now, no raggin on psychadelics ok, you can either handle your shit or you can be a dick sucking addict, it's all destiny, drug abusers are bad, but drug users are my favorite kind of people because they are always open minded, happy and very spritual people more perceptive than the rest, anyway i guess it's all in how you look at it, and it's about respect....are you using the drug so you can be cool in front of your friends or do you truly find pleasure in smoking a big fat bowl after a hard days work at your 100,000 dollar a year salary job. hahahahhaha some of the most succesful people are drug users

posted by  BanffAutoSpa_ap

Shakespeare's dwelling was recently found to contain several clay pipes with marijuana and cocaine residue. :laughing:

posted by  abless

Thats because no one knew of the bad effects back then. Especially of cocaine.

posted by  SlipKnoT

BTW, have you ever noticed no one even cares when you call a person white trash, but they all care when call someone (excuse my language, no racial prejudice intended) nigger or something of that sort? You could be talking to most liberal ****ing hippie in the world, call a guy white trash, and he would be like "HA HA HA HA!!! Well **** that guy!!!"

I seriously dont understand it. Just like no one cares when a black person calls a white person a cracker... :screwy: How is THAT not racist???

posted by  SlipKnoT

I personally enjoy being called a peckerwood, honky, cracker, whitebread, wonderbread, a bleach boy, birdshit, casper, gringo, or if im down south a cupcake.

It changes things up for a bit. You see I am so NON racist that I forget sometimes how racist some people are.

posted by  Zalight

The racist thing does bother me a bit because it is still differential treatment based on color. No matter which way it is. I like to think of myself as non-racist where black, white, brown, red does not matter at all. We are all people with different experiences.

The show that has me thinking about this even more is "Mind of Mancia" (spelling?) This guy goes on and continues the racial stereotypes that have divided people for years. Same thing with Chris Rock. Ok, part of it bugs me that these guys can say whatever they want racially and everybody laughs but if Joker Cracker were to attempt the same kind of comedy, he would be chased off the stage. This doesn't display an equality of the races.

In order to overcome all this racial BS, we need to stop with the differentiations and treat all races equally.

posted by  theman352001

i dont know if you listen to howard stern, but mancia came on promoting his show and he was telling about himself and the things he does on his show. he says the reason its all right to make fun of blacks and for blacks to make fun of mexicans is because they both "understand the struggle" but a white man doesnt understand it. just figured id throw this useless bit of information out there lol. :laughing:

posted by  adamc44

Lol. Yea, they were just that clueless.

No, actually they did know. Just like they knew about drinking they knew cocaine could be habit forming, and they knew that

posted by  abless

I agree with you, it doesnt really bother me, i find it kinda funny. I tend not to say racist stuff but i'll say things about myself or other 'whities' with my friends cause they understand i'm kidding.

posted by  car_crazy89

The only reason I care is because the administration at the schools I have gone to dont give a shit about. At my last school the assistant principal was black, and he didnt even care! Its like, if you dont want me to call you a nigger, then why are you letting all the other black kids call me a cracker?! :screwy: :banghead: :fu:

posted by  SlipKnoT

I listen to him periodically but I missed the episode your talking about. I don't buy their explanation though. I'll admit that there is still racism in the world, including the US. But it is not as bad as it was back in my grandfather's day. The level of it has been reduced greatly to the point that discrimination based on race looks similar to discrimination based on sex, religion, education, income, etc.... And it happens to blacks, latinos, asians, AND whites.

IMHO, it's shows like these that keep racism alive. Yeah, they will say they're trying to make the public aware of it and they are. It's always in our face on TV so that you can never get over it. We can not move on to a world without racism until these guys get over it. And they are likely to not get over it because it has become good money for them.

posted by  theman352001

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