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My friend has been looking for a Honda CRX for alittle bit now and today when looking on Autotrader he came across one that he kinda likes:

http://www.trader.ca/SendToFriend/Results.asp?id=1977315&adid=4916139

He was wondering how much it would cost for an engine to put into it (gotta ask a friends brother tonight maybe) and if the car would be worth buying and maybe how low to try and talk him with the price.


Please share your opinions on this, just don't flame me or each other. Thanks.

posted by  car_crazy89

I would suppose it all depends on how many miles are on the engine and how much the labor costs. Personally, I think $1500 is rather steep for an '88 with no engine or rims. Also, how many miles are on it? I'd offer $850-$1000 but no higher than that. You'll be looking at probably another $600-$1500 for a used engine to put in it not including labor.

Oh wait, that's $1500 Canadian....that's about $1290 American (sad), lol. Still too much. :2cents:

posted by  97Talonchik

Whats the milage on it its not mentioned there.

posted by  newyorker

Yea but the brakes, conversion, paint, kit, that all costs money too. Lets not forget the actual car. Id take it in a heartbeat.

posted by  newyorker

Really I don't know what the mileage on the rest of the car is, my friend hasn't called yet and the guy won't say anything over MSN.

The labor will be almost free for him as his uncle would do it for the simple cost of a 24 so he's not worried about that. Also another friend of mine, his brother knows where to get cheap ZC engines around here so he could possibly get one of those for the car.

If he got the car he wouldn't really put any money into looks anymore cause it's already been done (unlike if he bought a stock one).

posted by  car_crazy89

I guess then it all just comes down to the mileage.

posted by  97Talonchik

What do you think would be acceptable in that area then?

Not trying to advertise, but apparently this is his site with pics of cars he's done before (as he says he's done many) http://www.bulldog.hr/gs/gotstyle.html (mods can remove this if they consider it advertising).

posted by  car_crazy89

Sounds cool...$1,500 doesn't sound too bad...and if he can get the engine installed for free, I'd take it...:2cents:

posted by  chris_knows

I wouldn't. Mods usually lower the value of a car, especially when they are questionable and experimental. Why not buy a regular CRX with engine included for $2000? This car will likely give you problems.

posted by  Mathew

....what's this "needs body work" mean? Might want to find out about that too. I don't know what would be acceptable mileage, but my reasoning for saying ask about the mileage is because higher mileage can mean lot of wear and tear on a vehicle. He could buy it, get it home and find out there are more things that need to be fixed besides the engine. Guess you won't know how well it runs until you get the engine in there. Hey, don't listen to me, no one else does, lol. :laughing:

posted by  97Talonchik

I do :mrgreen:

posted by  BanffAutoSpa_ap

:stupid: :wink2:

posted by  chris_knows

Hey Talonchik, if you weren't worth listening to then I wouldn't keep asking what you thought, I need some help for my friend and your willing to give it to me, so thank you.

Well I got my friend to ask about mileage but apparently the odometer has been switched with the Integra odometer when he swapped dashes, but he's giving the Buyers Package which should should last recorded mileage.

Also, I talked to my friend who talked to his brother and found out he can get a ZC engine (approx. 140HP I'm told) for around $600 and a set of wheels from a 97' Civic for cheap (so brings total of car, engine, wheels to about $2200 and saves all costs of body kit and whatever else my friend wants).

The engine install is not totally free, just the cost of a case of 24 (that's how we Canadians work, lol j/k).

posted by  car_crazy89

Sh*t with two beautiful cars like that in your siggy, you gotta be worth listening to :PP

posted by  Pythias

Quick question, anyone know if an atv trailer (made for 2 atv's) would be able to hold a CRX with no engine (no more the 1900)? Thanks a lot.

posted by  car_crazy89

What are the dimensions of the trailer? I'd think yes, but a typical ATV weighs under 600-700 pounds, so it might be a bit heavy too...

posted by  chris_knows

I just checked and I think it'll actually fit. Here is what the trailer looks like (similiar specs): http://www.arkansasduckhunter.com/atvtrailers.asp


so trailer: 6.5x14
car: about 4.5x12.5 (being alittle safe)

trailer: 3500 max weight
car: no more then 1900

posted by  car_crazy89

The dimensions for the car are here:
http://www.dork.com/benji/Specs.html

It's 12 feet long, and 5'4" wide...so shouldn't have any problems with it...

posted by  chris_knows

Well I'm hoping it'll fit lol, as my friend may have to go by what I say (yes or no) and I'm saying yes.

posted by  car_crazy89

Here's a few pics he got:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/carcrazy89/MVC-003F.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/carcrazy89/MVC-010F.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/carcrazy89/MVC-009F.jpg

Not sure what the red stuff is in the second pic, but might be paint(?).

posted by  car_crazy89

Did he bring her home?

It's either rust or paint I think...

posted by  chris_knows

No, he hasn't had a chance to see it yet in person. He's not totally sure what to do, thinks it might be too much work then its worth (and too costly) rather then buying a stock(ish) CRX and doing alot of that himself.

Also another car came up, a Dodge Dart for $300 (that's all he knows till tomorrow), except it's certified.

^^Thinks mom might have wrong name of car (he says)^^

posted by  car_crazy89

I'd think his mom is getting confused...either that or it needs a lot of work...

posted by  chris_knows

Haha well he said it might be a Shadow (MAJOR difference between cars, but he hasn't seen it yet). If it's a Shadow then it's out of the question lol.


EDIT: Quick question for insurance, what would the car go under? Would it still be considered a CRX (as that's how it's titled) or..

posted by  car_crazy89

Well I found out today that the guy still has the car. I also found out the mileage on the car itself (what's left of the CRX) is about 200,000KM (not miles for you Americans) and it has a clear title. He also sent more pics:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/carcrazy89/03.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/carcrazy89/02.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/carcrazy89/01.jpg

posted by  car_crazy89

the price is a bit high, but if the parts are worth it, you could still come out with a unique, fun car for cheap. it'll still be vastly less than buying a stock CRX and doing all that stuff to it. The problem I see is that the workmanship isn't all THAT good, as the red is the color under the parts showing through.


As for mods making a car worth less, that's so not true. POOR mods can make a car worth less, common mods won't make a car change value, and good mods can increase the car's value. Why do you think a street rod '33 Ford costs more than a stock '33 Ford? Hmm? Why do you think my V8 RX7 was worth 4 times what a stock '86 RX7 was? Hmm?

posted by  ChrisV

Well he pretty much has everything all worked out (an engine for $600, uncle to install it, friend to do body/interior and possibly paint) so he doesn't really have to pay labour costs.

What he needs to know now is if he gets this engine (a ZC engine) what kind of transmission would he need? Could he just use one from any Honda vehicle of that era or is there a certain one he'd need to use?

posted by  car_crazy89

The ZC is the normal engine in the JDM CRX Si, so just get a trans from one of those. Should be available at any JDM engine importer.

Thunderbird might know better if the regular CRX Si trans will bolt up.

posted by  ChrisV

Well there's a place near here that sells those engines (for the $600) and they're already here, the car sadly does not come with a transmission and have no idea if the place that sells the engines also sells transmissions, he wants to spend as little as possible though.

The thing about Thunderbird is I haven't seen him here in alittle while.

posted by  car_crazy89

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