83 Plymouth Turismo

83 Plymouth Turismo
Hey all, my name is Victor and i am 17. A while ago i had a old plymouth turismo, and this is when i didnt have me license, so another family member was driving it. All i remember is the head gasket needed replacement(which i can do now) and somebody also put sugar in the tank :ohcrap: and its been jus sitting around, and i thought what the hell might as well have some fun.

Ok what I need to know is, what parts would i have to replace and or fix to get her running again? All i know is i already have to get a new gas tank, and the fuel filter will need to be replaced, spark plugs....and the carberator will need to be cleaned.

Please add to this, and/or correct it. Thanks everyone

  vmc2

can someone please help me out?

  vmc2

your on the right track if the tank is in good condition then just flush it out after you drain the gas and let it air out for a day to evaparate the rest
you will need to clean the carb flush the lines/drain replace fuel filter

any idea how much the engine ran with sugar in the tank?
always thought this would ruin the engine i've never seen it only heard about this stuff happening

  osborste

yeah i couldnt believe it when it happened, it wouldnt if i was driving it because id probably be sleeping in it or something ahaha

Ok but i just want to make sure its worth my effort and money, because im not loaded with cash at the moment. I hope tht will make it run, but if theres anything I missed or you guys think will help please tell me......and also tell me if it totally gone, thanks

And thank you for your reply

  vmc2

oh sorry i didnt answer your question, um i think it was a month or something......but im not 100% sure how long it was

  vmc2

please can someone help finish off my questions, also i wanted to ask do i clean the carberator with water or carberator cleaner.....because on the bottle of carberator it says to clean the insides while its running.....but i cant get it to run right now

  vmc2

Rofl Water, Mos Def Do Not Use Water!!!! Use Carb Cleaner Spray. And U Usually Do It While Its Running, But U Can Do It Off Too. Only Problem Is By Doing It Off, Ur Risking The Chance Of Flooding The Carb.

  Snap-On

whats wrong with water?

  BanffAutoSpa_ap

I wonder how long it took this person to type that. It Took Me 25 Seconds To Just Type This Sentence. My goodness...

Oh and duh, water wont hurt the carb as long as its off the engine, just make sure you dry it out very well so as the carb wont build up rust or anything (depending on how long it will sit)

  Lithium

thank you for the replys.....i guess imma use the carberator cleaner....imma have to jus turn it around and stuff to pour out the cleaner stuff

so i only have to change the gas tank, and fuel filter and lines, and/or clean the lines.....and clean the carberator and the engine should start running?
hopefully i get a quick reply to this

thank you

  vmc2

I wouldnt see why it wouldnt...I have never seen what sugar does to the engine, but maybe it could eat the diaphram on the fuel pump, so it may need replaced. As long as the sugar didnt harm any internals (valves, pistons, bores) then i dont see why it wont start.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

  Lithium

thank you

now i have no problem buying new lines and a new fuel filter, but gas tank will be a problem....is ther anyway i could test it with a bottle of gasoline?

maybe connect all the line into a small container with gasoline just to try it out?

thanks for the help

  vmc2

Um....I thought you said the head gasket was bad?? If it is I wouldnt bother trying to get it to run until its fixed, because your engine isnt going to run very well (or at all) on a bad head gasket. but if you are going to change the head gasket, check the bores and your pistons, valves, etc. for damage from the sugar(?) Who puts sugar in a gas tank anyways, maybe as a octane booster? :screwy: lol j/k

  Pinstriper38

i wanted to get it running first, and if it ran....id change the head gasket

i dont want to replace tht and end up knowing that its not gunna run

Can someone please help me out with testing the engine without a gas tank?

thanks

  vmc2

depending on how bad the head gaskets gone you should be able to get it to run/start up/stumble/etc
as for the gas in a bottle it will work if the engine has a mechanical fuel pump
or hook up an electric if need be

  osborste

Alright....does somebody know if a 1983 Plymouth Turismo uses a pump or not?

Also i was talking to a mechanic, and he said it would cost lik 500 dollars jus to get everything cleaned in the engine to get it working.....isnt this BS, like seriously changing the fuel pump, lines, and cleaning the carberator with a cleaner, and replacing the gas tank cant cost 500.

This is all i found out that i have to do, so to my knowledge, all sugar does is clog up lines and the carberator...

Ahhhh im hoping this will be worth my effort!!!!!!

thanks again

  vmc2

no more advice?

  vmc2

google it....
...or follow the fuel lines.

  windsonian

Ok ill do that, i guess i was being kinda lazy there

So can i just get my other questions ansrewed please?

Im thinking about starting on it tommorrow

  vmc2

hmm nobody has replyed to this yet, but i have another question.....a very stupid one

the fuel lines are made out of metal right.....so when i take them out...should i clean them with penatrating oil or jus plain water?

thank you for the help

  vmc2

$500 seems like a fair price to me, dropping a tank is quite a bit of work. Thats basically asking to re-do your whole fuel system. My mechanic charged $650 just to change the fuel pump in our Buick. (on some cars the fuel pump is mounted in the gas tank, so that has to come out to get to it) I would say youre best off doing it yourself if you have the tools and you are capable. As for your trying it out, maybe just squirt some gas in the intake and see if it does anything. Or a mechanical fuel pump will do just fine, if you have one. Electric pumps are about 40 bucks so not really worth it. Your lines should clean up fine, use a garden hose with a sprayer and squirt inside them for a minute or so to dissolve the sugar. :2cents:

  Pinstriper38

thanks man

so far i have the carberator basically tooken out, the fuel lines are almost out, same with the pump

im pretty sure imma have to buy a new pump, $$ shit lol

I hope i get this running

Id have everything cleaned out by now, but the weather is cooling off a bit, and raining, so it is kind of hard :cussing:

  vmc2

ok i jus have two questions

when i was looking at the carberator....i forgot the name of this part, but its where air enters the carberator, so if you move the acclerator it will open and close, but when i move the acclerator all the way, it only opens like a 1cm......what could be causing this

also could i test if the engine is running if i just fill the float bowl with gasoline and start it....or do i have to replace the fuel pump and install the lines, and put the lines into a container of gasoline to test it?

thank you alot for the help

  vmc2

bump....

  vmc2

If you can move the carb butterfly's, or throttle plates, by hand and it isnt stuck you should be ok. Usually if you find a fuel bowl vent hole (basically a hole in the top of the carb) you can squrt gas in there till it is full and your car should run for a few seconds. you will know when its full and working properly (well almost) when you move the throttle plates and gas sqirts out, if it doesnt after a few tries the the carb is plugged and will more than likely needs a good cleaning anyways. Did you ever figure out if it has an electric or mechanical fuel pump?

  Pinstriper38

well due to the weather down here, i didnt get it out so i cant really see it

but i could put my bets on it being electrical because its near the bottom of the engine, and it would have to be connect to the cam shaft for it to be mechancial doesnt it, ive also read up about some of them being run on oil pressure

damn forcast says it should stop raining by friday

  vmc2

well the weather warmed up, and i just looked at the engine and i guess i was wrong, it looks lik a mechanical fuel pump, it mounted to the engine, no wires going to it, im pretty sure it runs of the oil pressure.....

this is werid because i took out the fuel lines and the filter, when i ran water threw the filter clean water came out the other end, and theres another line, where some water came out tht was white colored, but it passed after about a second of flushing.......maybe this is all the sugar in the lines? I was thinking maybe the pump must be shot, maybe thats why it isnt running

if you can correct me or tell me im right it would be nice
thanks

  vmc2

no comments?

  vmc2

This is interesting:
I was watching this show called Mythbusters on t.v. and they did the sugar in gas tank thing and it didnt hurt anything. The motor they used (a Chevy 350 I think) ran just fine with the sugar in it. They even let it sit for a day to let the sugar sit and it still started right up. So good news for you lol.

I wouldnt worry about the pump, if your carb is good and the engine isnt locked up (or has major mechanical problems) I think you will be just fine squirting gas into/through the carb and see if it will start/cakle/fire or do something that tells us it has the potential to run. When you get there we can help other than just "pissing in the wind". :laughing: Throwing money at a car just to find out its junk isnt very fun. :2cents:

  Pinstriper38

wow thts interesting, hmmm it makes me wonder why it stopped running then eh hmmmm

well disconnected all the lines, so i think i might leave them disconnected, and ill try and put gas into the carberator float bowl, and put the carberator back together and see if it runs or not.

Maybe could the engine not be running because the head gasket? I doubt tht it makes a difference in the engine starting or not, but if it does i think i might have to replace tht, thank you for the help

  vmc2

oh sorry i kinda misread your post, ok ill try it and let you guys know if it kinda runs or not

  vmc2