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Old 01-12-2006, 05:42 PM   #1
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Ugliest Cars of 2005

What are the top 10 ugliest domestic cars in your opinion?
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Old 01-12-2006, 05:44 PM   #2
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What are the top 10 ugliest domestic cars in your opinion?
Good grief, do we have to go through this again?
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Old 01-12-2006, 05:49 PM   #3
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Good grief, do we have to go through this again?
Relax, nobody asked you to reply.
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Old 01-12-2006, 06:00 PM   #4
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Really? Are you sure you f*cking moron? Read your post. It's an open question. That means ANYBODY can reply with their opinion. Go crawl back under your rock, douche bag.
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Old 01-12-2006, 06:04 PM   #5
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Really? Are you sure you f*cking moron? Read your post. It's an open question. That means ANYBODY can reply with their opinion. Go crawl back under your rock, douche bag.
I can read, probably better than you. I asked what people thought were the ugliest domestic cars on the road, I didn't ask for little homo's like you who live in their parents' basement to add stupid comments. If you don't want to reply to the post, then move on, loser. It's pretty simple. Go eat some yellow snow, faggot.
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Old 01-12-2006, 06:10 PM   #6
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I can read, probably better than you. I asked what people thought were the ugliest domestic cars on the road, I didn't ask for little homo's like you who live in their parents' basement to add stupid comments. If you don't want to reply to the post, then move on, loser. It's pretty simple. Go eat some yellow snow, faggot.
That really hurts coming from a twelve year old, Twinkie. The only stupid comment's I've read in this thread have emanated from your fingers. Does your teacher know you use her computer during recess?
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Old 01-12-2006, 06:03 PM   #7
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1. 05 Ford Mustang
2. 05 Chevy Avalanche
3. 05 Chevy HHR
4. 05 Chevy Uplander
5. 05 Chrysler 300C

Now this is purely opinion based and requires no evidence to support it...
I think a can of warms has just been opened.

Edit: Oops scion isn't domestic. HEHE my bad.
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1. 05 Ford Mustang
2. 05 Scion Xb
3. 05 Chevy HHR
4. 05 Chevy Uplander
5. 05 Chrysler 300C

Now this is purely opinion based and requires no evidence to support it...
I think a can of warms has just been opened.
Yeah, but just curious. I think the whole retro body styling thing of late is just plain hideous, but these auto manufacturers most likely did their homework and these cars are selling, so someone likes them. I was just trying to put together a demographic on them of sorts. Underneath the ugly body styles though, are admittedly, some nice cars, performance-wise.
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OH ya... they are definitely selling... I’m not buying but someone is.
And more power to them... there’s definitely no accounting for style.

Like I love Chrysler, grew up in a Chrysler family (should have seen my dads face when I came home in a Fiero… lol) but that 300C is just horrible… who thought it was a good idea to make it look like it has a chop top? I’m not a fan of the chop top any way… so I might be a bit biased.
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:13 PM   #10
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Yeah, but just curious. I think the whole retro body styling thing of late is just plain hideous, but these auto manufacturers most likely did their homework and these cars are selling, so someone likes them. I was just trying to put together a demographic on them of sorts. Underneath the ugly body styles though, are admittedly, some nice cars, performance-wise.

Im going to try a different tactic in this thread...

I'll give you a little demographic on me, a PT Cruiser owner...

I've been playing with cars for 27 years. I've owned over a hundred, from most major manufacturers worldwide. I've also dabbled in most hobby genres, from sports cars and SCCA racing, to street rods, to 50's/60 customs, to musclecars, to lowriders, to mini trucks, to custom VWs, to sport compacts. I apprenticed in a shop doing vintage auto restration, doing a lot of work on the cars in the Harold LeMay collection. Then, for a decade, I had a shop building customs and street rods, and doing race and restoration work on sports cars. I'v ebeen an SCCA member since 1980, doing slalom racing, a bit of road racing, and autocross driver's instruction for both SCCA and BSCC.

For personal cars (not customer cars) I've built everything from a 600 hp autocrossing 460 powered Fox Mustang and a 400 hp V8 powered RX7 slalom racer, to a rotary powered MG midget, custom lowrider classic minitrucks, custom VWs bugs, restored Porsches, etc. Right now, besides the PT Cruiser, I've got the Fiat in my sig that I restored from a $100 rusty hulk, 2 Range Rover classics, and a 1963 Mercury Comet convertible that is becoming a full custom using a Lexus 4 liter DOHC V8 and Supra 5 speed custom adapted, sitting on a custom frame with air ride suspension.

This thread shows the cars I find the prettiest: http://www.car-forums.com/talk/showthread.php?t=19102

This shows the restoration of the Fiat: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cvetters3/fiat_spider.htm

So you can see my automotive background and tastes.

I'm a trained graphic designer, and have spent decades studying what works as design and what doesn't, as I was paid to know. But cars have been my passion since birth, and there are NO cars I hate as a group. Maybe individual examples that have stranded me, but I woudn't even use that to damn a type, make or model.

I loved the PT when it was first introduced, but didn't want to pay inflated prices for the first couple years, since it wasn't going to be a limited edition car. I got my 5 speed Touring edition PT in April '02, and have put 68k miles on it, including a season of autocross (where it competed well with MINI coopers and the like). It has been comfortable for long trips (like the 17 hours to Orlando), versatile, carrying HUGE amounts of stuff. It has been perfectly reliable, more fun to drive than it needed to be, and even now, after all teh years of driving it, still as rattle free as new, and as solid as the day I bought it. I'm extremely impressed with the actual quality of construction that shows up in durability, not panel gaps.

And I love the style. The overtones of '37 Ford and Chrysler Airflow mixed with modern detailing and form. They make great basis for building customs from, and stand out from a sea of boring econoboxes and hatchbacks. As a designer and custom car builder, I find them far from hideous. And considering who else in the industry likes them (like Chip Foose, and I doubt anyone can accuse him of having bad taste in cars) I'm in pretty good company.





Yes, it's a tall, small wagon. That's what I bought it for, but it's been one of the best vehicle purchases I've had in the last 27 years, as far as a regular car goes. If it's not for you, that's fine. But don't be insulting about it as though it's stupid. Because that just says you're an ignorant, intolerant kid.
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Relax, nobody asked you to reply.

actually buddy you started it. It may have not been name calling, but it was another form of trying to pick a fight.

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Why don't you go jump his shit instead?


because I agree with him, you are a Fu**ing moron

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you also started this also by saying "you guys need to stop riding hobos cock"

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again with the insults, why don't you take your own advise and get some anger managment classes
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actually buddy you started it. It may have not been name calling, but it was another form of trying to pick a fight.
Perhaps you didn't read the comment he made that prompted me make my original statement.
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because I agree with him, you are a Fu**ing moron
Thus proving you are an idiot as well.
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you also started this also by saying "you guys need to stop riding hobos cock"
Which I of course only stated when you all chimed in and ganged up on me, even though he started slinging insults first.
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again with the insults, why don't you take your own advise and get some anger managment classes
I did; they didn't help.
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Old 01-12-2006, 05:48 PM   #13
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What are the top 10 ugliest domestic cars in your opinion?
Here's my top 5 picks:
1) the 2005 Ford Mustangs - made to appeal to the redneck population in America and the #1 reason why people are buying great looking foreign sports cars like the 350Z and the RX-8.
2) Dodge PT Cruiser.
3) Dodge Magnum.
4) Dodge 300 series - not the slightest hint of a pleasant curve to this body style, then they threw a bunch of gaudy looking chrome on it to appeal to the homeboys.
5) Pontiac Grand Prix.
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