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Old 11-13-2007, 02:38 PM   #1
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Idiots and Automotive Repair

Stop! Before reading any further, be fully aware that this post is essentially a rant. The reason for putting it here is the recent spate of posts from our favorite forum idiot newyorker, thinking and pretending he knows something about cars. I'm sorry, I used the words "think" and "newyorker" in the same sentence. My mistake. Continue at your own risk.



The world is full of morons who think they know how to repair cars, but normally do just the opposite. Right now I have a '99 Suburban in the shop and an irate owner. Ya see, a few weeks ago it quit on him. As the story goes, everything was okay until one morning he went out to go to work and it wouldn't start. It was one of our first relatively cold mornings so he figured it was caused by the weather. Enter his next door neighbor.

Next door neighbor guy (NDNG) talked to the owner that afternoon and the subject of the Sub came up. The NDNG told him he knows all about this kind of thing and can take care of it. He went over and took a look. Diagnosis, starter.

As you may have guessed, the new starter made no difference. So it must be the alternator. Nope. Has to be the battery. Keep guessing. "The engine won't turn over if the fuel pump is bad." Yes, he really said it, so a new fuel pump went in. Sorry. Desperation must now be setting in because they replaced the starter again. And then the cap, rotor, wires, plugs and distributor. Still no workee.

Finally yesterday at work the owner mentioned his frustration to a co-worker of his who is a customer of mine. He called me and explained his dillema. I had the Sub towed to my little 10 month old, one man shop. It took longer to get off the rollback than it did to diagnose the problems. Problem #1 is that his stupid neighbor spent about $1k of his money to not fix a damn thing. Problem #2 is that I now have to deal with an irate customer who can't really afford to repair the original problem because of #1.

The root cause of all this mindless parts replacing? A locked up A/C compressor. Drop the belt and fire it up. Stupid f*cking shadetrees. I wish they'd all die... Except they create a lot of work for me. Thanks NDNG.

Over and out.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:53 PM   #2
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I had a car quit on my once because of a locked-up a/c compressor...but I figured it out. You'll never get my money bitch.


Your customer should be able to return all of those parts. You should suggest that to him.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:09 PM   #3
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So how's that bet going anyway?
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:53 PM   #4
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I had a car quit on my once because of a locked-up a/c compressor...but I figured it out. You'll never get my money bitch.

Your customer should be able to return all of those parts. You should suggest that to him.
Just when I think you might be one of the smarter members on the forum, you go and prove that you're actually newyorker posting from a different IP.

Let's just for a moment assume that he would try to return the parts. First, he has to pay someone to remove said parts, so that diminishes his potential return. Second, parts stores are in the business of selling parts, not loaning them to people to try on their car to see if they work. Real parts stores won't take them back, big box parts stores MAY take them back. Third, the high dollar parts that have the potential to be returned (starter, alternator, battery) have already had the core turned in and processed. For the small minded among you, that means that even IF he could return them, he wouldn't have a part to reinstall. Fourth, someone needs to be paid for installation, which of course means his return will be even less.

Finally, it's parts changing dimwits like you who do take perfectly good (and sometimes damaged) parts back to a store because your wild ass guess "diagnosis" was wrong. That raises the price of parts for EVERYBODY. The best thing he can do is just accept the fact that he f*cked up, suck it up like a man and take this as a good life lesson. The best thing you could do is just sit down, shut up and don't waste bandwidth telling us about what you don't know. I don't freestyle because a man's got to know his limitations. Instead of making yourself look stupid, you should learn yours. You, like your alter ego have publically displayed your ignorance of the automotive aftermarket industry.


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So how's that bet going anyway?
Estimated gross income from 2/1/07-1/31/08 is $155-$165K. Not bad for a first year start-up. The shop exceeded expectations. The $5k bet money will be going to the local animal shelter matched with $5k from my wife. We'll be eating at Ruth's Chris Steak House on or about February 1st.

I'd say it's going okay.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:40 PM   #5
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:04 PM   #6
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and the point of this is....if i dont know how to do something, I wont tackle it. Ive already rejected one person that had a dent in their door that I didnt have the tools to fix...sure I could have slapped bondo over and it rattlecan the frame, but thats not my way.





Just wanted to send a follow-up email about this. Unfortunately, from your description, there is nothing that I can do to fix this. The dent is in a place where the metal is thicker to help rigidity of the door frame, therefore, a dent puller will do nothing against it. That kind of damage would require a bondo (body filler) job to get the shape of the door frame back, and then would need to be painted. Unfortunately, due to my low volume and general inquiries, I do not have an air compressor, or access to color-coded paint at a good price. I do not have a spray booth to ensure a factory quality finish. I also do not have enough experience with this level of repair and paint to do it for customers, because I want my work to be as perfect as possible, and this isnt the kind of job I can say that about. If you would like, I can send you a list of several good body shops around the area that will be able to help you quickly and for a fair price. Thanks for your inquiry, good luck, and Happy Holidays. If you ever need anything else done, specifically mechanical work, do not hesitate to email.

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yea...like I said, im not one to tackle doing things I have no clue about...or things that I just dont have the tools for. the HID on the maxima was a hit/miss type deal because if I could have fixed it, good, if not, he would have taken it somewhere else...its not like im charging him to try, especially if I dont fix the problem
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:32 PM   #7
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Case in point.
SOUTHWORTH, Wash. (AP) -- A man trying to loosen a stubborn lug nut blasted the wheel with a 12-gauge shotgun, injuring himself badly in both legs, sheriff's deputies said.

The 66-year-old man had been repairing a Lincoln Continental for two weeks at his home northwest of Southworth, about 10 miles southwest of Seattle, and had gotten all but one of the lug nuts off the right rear wheel by Saturday afternoon, Kitsap County Deputy Scott Wilson said.

"He's bound and determined to get that lug nut off," Wilson said.

From about arm's length, the man fired the shotgun at the wheel and was "peppered" in both legs with buckshot and debris, with some injuries as high as his chin, according to a sheriff's office report.

"Nobody else was there and he wasn't intoxicated," Wilson said.

The man was taken to Tacoma General Hospital with injuries Wilson described as severe but not life-threatening.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:23 PM   #8
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from the first page of this post - thought it needed to be brought back

SOOO @ newyorker - lol you're remedial (look it up - it means "IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENT" - in your case - IN MAJOR NEED FOR IMPROVEMNT)

you dont go and bondo a big ****ing dent you moron - you buy a welder and sheet metal - cut the dent out - roll and get a basic body line and pinch form the damn sheet metal to match the vehicle - this leaves little spots here and there from the weld pinching (method to tighten the metal so its not floppy like your thought process) after set grooves from spot welding everything is finished a small dab here and there for any imperfections can be done with a body filler - suggestively one with cat hair (fiberglass strands) for a little flexibility because doors do flex when you accidently open it and it bumps another car or something of that sort.

As for any frame of the door - you cut it out and replace it - it's not that hard, use your head. - The door skin and the door frame are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS..

I hope someone isn't stupid enough to go to you for bodywork LET ALONE engine work!


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and the point of this is....if i dont know how to do something, I wont tackle it. Ive already rejected one person that had a dent in their door that I didnt have the tools to fix...sure I could have slapped bondo over and it rattlecan the frame, but thats not my way.





Just wanted to send a follow-up email about this. Unfortunately, from your description, there is nothing that I can do to fix this. The dent is in a place where the metal is thicker to help rigidity of the door frame, therefore, a dent puller will do nothing against it. That kind of damage would require a bondo (body filler) job to get the shape of the door frame back, and then would need to be painted. Unfortunately, due to my low volume and general inquiries, I do not have an air compressor, or access to color-coded paint at a good price. I do not have a spray booth to ensure a factory quality finish. I also do not have enough experience with this level of repair and paint to do it for customers, because I want my work to be as perfect as possible, and this isnt the kind of job I can say that about. If you would like, I can send you a list of several good body shops around the area that will be able to help you quickly and for a fair price. Thanks for your inquiry, good luck, and Happy Holidays. If you ever need anything else done, specifically mechanical work, do not hesitate to email.

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yea...like I said, im not one to tackle doing things I have no clue about...or things that I just dont have the tools for. the HID on the maxima was a hit/miss type deal because if I could have fixed it, good, if not, he would have taken it somewhere else...its not like im charging him to try, especially if I dont fix the problem

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Finally, it's parts changing dimwits like you who do take perfectly good (and sometimes damaged) parts back to a store because your wild ass guess "diagnosis" was wrong.

Come on now, stop it. I'm not a parts changer. BUT IF I WAS...I'd be the best in the world...and as the best, I wouldn't core my original parts until I changed the part that fixed the problem. That's how I'd roll...f#ck the big picture. Trial and error for the price of...I don't know...on Autozone's house. I'd keep MY price cheap. The NDNG should have no problem putting his parts back on.


And to further kick your industry in the nuts, I'd let you diagnose it then tow it home to change the part myself...or in this case, have the NDNG change it...unless the tow is more expensive than your fix.

That's how I'd roll as a master parts changer. Luckily, I don't roll like that. I care about people.
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Come on now, stop it. I'm not a parts changer. BUT IF I WAS...I'd be the best in the world...and as the best, I wouldn't core my original parts until I changed the part that fixed the problem. That's how I'd roll...f#ck the big picture. Trial and error for the price of...I don't know...on Autozone's house. I'd keep MY price cheap. The NDNG should have no problem putting his parts back on.


And to further kick your industry in the nuts, I'd let you diagnose it then tow it home to change the part myself...or in this case, have the NDNG change it...unless the tow is more expensive than your fix.

That's how I'd roll as a master parts changer. Luckily, I don't roll like that. I care about people.
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