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Old 05-16-2004, 01:46 AM   #1
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We need an American import killer!!

We need an American car to beat the crap out of the imports at their own game
Although the Mustang, Camaro, and Firebird are good, theyre in a completely different class
Dodge is doing a good job with the SRT-4 though
The current Cavaliers, Neons, and Focuses won't cut it
GM should scrap the Sunfire and bring out a new Cavalier with a V6
Ford should put the Focus with a V8 crammed into the front into production
Dodge should expand on the SRT-4 concept

Pontiac should have left the Fiero in production with a V8 the engine compartments crammed but the Fiero really goes
and besides it had the looks
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Old 05-16-2004, 04:40 AM   #2
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what about the cobolt, z06, viper
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Old 05-16-2004, 08:47 AM   #3
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the V8 wont fit in a focus, besides which you dont want another muscle car you want a AWD sports car, the focus could be a good place to start. If i may be so bold. The jag x type, i think you have those, is 4x4 and the 3 litre duratec sport is 236bhp so its certainly got the makings of a sports car. all the runing gear should fit in a focus, unless you can live with a jag. Its velatively tuneableprobibly get about 300bhp out of it then a bottle of nitros. lighten it what do you think?
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Old 05-16-2004, 02:42 PM   #4
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the V8 wont fit in a focus, besides which you dont want another muscle car you want a AWD sports car, the focus could be a good place to start. If i may be so bold. The jag x type, i think you have those, is 4x4 and the 3 litre duratec sport is 236bhp so its certainly got the makings of a sports car. all the runing gear should fit in a focus, unless you can live with a jag. Its velatively tuneableprobibly get about 300bhp out of it then a bottle of nitros. lighten it what do you think?
The Focus is soon to be offered with a V8 conversion in the States, It'll cost about $11,000 though, but with RWD and a 4.6litre V8 ya cant go wrong...so I gues that means, with a little bit of modding and some shoehorning lol, a V8 will fit in the Focus!
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still wont be AWD, which is 1/2 the problem, they need to improve the balence of the car, with that V8 in the front it will behave like a truck, weigh in the front, drive in the back, wheel spin city.
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still wont be AWD, which is 1/2 the problem, they need to improve the balence of the car, with that V8 in the front it will behave like a truck, weigh in the front, drive in the back, wheel spin city.
It's all good really though, that shouldn't be a problem, most RWD cars have that set up, evern with large engines!
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Old 05-16-2004, 04:22 PM   #7
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what about the cobolt, z06, viper

well, the Cobalt I wouldnt count quite yet...

but yes, the viper and the new 'vette, and maybe even the new mustang are certainly import-killers IMO.
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Old 05-17-2004, 01:59 AM   #9
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First of all cliffys right about the V8
ive seen pics of one modified with a V8 thrown in the front
its sweet although cinqygs probably right about poor handling
it could do some awesome drifting in a parking lot though
cuz theres no walls to hit when u slide way beyond your control
the other thing is that the mustang and especially the z06 and viper are in a completely different class than a civic
although the mustang is around the same class as a prelude or sumthing
(i dont know my jap cars too well)
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:16 AM   #10
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so this stock V8 focus, were do you think it will compare to a stock rice car?

Civic type R
MR2
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Old 05-17-2004, 07:25 PM   #11
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so this stock V8 focus, were do you think it will compare to a stock rice car?

Civic type R
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The Focus wont be stock...hence why you have to spend an extra 11 grand on it, also, the V8 will weigh soooo much that the handling will be evened out!
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:18 PM   #12
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isnt the cobolt the 'new' cavalier?
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Old 07-03-2004, 02:29 PM   #13
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Dodge is doing a good job with the SRT-4 though
The current Cavaliers, Neons, and Focuses won't cut it
The SRT-4 is considered a Neon. But yes, I am in agreement- the current compact cars don't have what it takes.

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GM should scrap the Sunfire and bring out a new Cavalier with a V6

The Cobalt, like importluva said, is a new Cavalier. And the plans for a Cavalier SS don't look so bad. It's sad that the car is ugly as sin, though. I don't see the reason to scrap the Sunfire, though... but it is in dire need of serious refreshment.

The Pony cars you mentioned before are just that- pony cars. Mustangs, Camaros, and Firebirds aren't really made to contend with Asian competition. And I don't know- I'd prefer Ford make a kickass version of the ZX2 rather than the Focus.
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Old 07-04-2004, 10:54 AM   #14
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The Pony cars you mentioned before are just that- pony cars. Mustangs, Camaros, and Firebirds aren't really made to contend with Asian competition. And I don't know- I'd prefer Ford make a kickass version of the ZX2 rather than the Focus.

All cars are made to contend with others. Since contend is nothing but a label for competition. Labeling something as a "Pony" car does'nt mean people can't race it at the track. I honestly think the potential is out there...you just gotta find it.
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:16 AM   #15
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I think Dodge is starting to get on track this year. They're bringing back their rear wheel drive cars. Not these crappy front wheel drive sh*t boxes. I think all the American companies should start looking for their answers by using common sense. Rear wheel drive cars do better burn outs, they sell and basically they just OWN. Then again AWD cars can be pretty cool. I'm starting to think the American companies are trying too hard to be like the foreigners when they should be going oldschool. Everyone respected cars back in the 60's and 70's because 1.They hand immence power and 2.They were just plain cool. All you answers are in the past, you just have to realize it.
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