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Old 02-19-2003, 05:17 PM   #1
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BMW vs Mercedes

WHo will win?????

Mercedes - pure luxury

BMW - luxury with perfect performance
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Old 03-05-2003, 11:53 PM   #2
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Mercedes has better sport performance(get the V12 engine, I think its 493 horse, trumps the 745 series in terms of power) and luxury PERIOD, that is if youre willing to spend the bucks lol
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Old 03-06-2003, 05:32 AM   #3
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what??

493 horses with the S600
compare a S420 with a 745i
compare a 760li with a S600....then we see which is QUICKER
the beamer will leave the benz behind!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-12-2005, 05:54 PM   #4
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what do ya say about new M5?
5000 cmc and 507 HP almost 100Hp per liter
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Old 04-17-2005, 04:35 PM   #5
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what do ya say about new M5?
5000 cmc and 507 HP almost 100Hp per liter

Yeah, but the torque is surprisingly low.

500hp 384 lb ft of torque
0-60 in 4.7 seconds (manufacturer est.)
Top Speed: 155 mph
$90,000



Still, a V10 powered M5 is very attractive, but I think the 500hp figure is misleading as there are 400hp cars in it's class that will offer the same overall performance.

Kind of an example of the classic saying that "horsepower sells cars, but torque wins races". Not always true, but works here in that BMW obviously was shooting for that 'magic' 500 horse number so that the uninformed would perceive their car as better than the competition.

That said, I still wouldn't say no to owning one.
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Old 03-07-2003, 01:34 AM   #6
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493 horses with the S600
compare a S420 with a 745i
compare a 760li with a S600....then we see which is QUICKER
the beamer will leave the benz behind!!!!!!!!!

Geez, youre not reading the numbers right.

also, who cares about the s420 or the 745i, theyre both pathetic compared to these.

The s600 has more power, is lighter(the s600 sedan is lighter to the tune of 500 plus pounds, and we havent even gotten the coupe, the 7 series is all SEDANS)

With the engine that bmw has they shouldve gotten way more power, the benz makes all that power with a 5.5L, bmw has a 6.0L. the bmw has 48 valves, benz 36. benz has a SOHC, bmw has a DOHC. plus, the final drive ratio in the benz is better for fuel economy as well. I guess bmw must be ashamed of the mpg they get because they dont list it for those sedans.

Ive done the math, and mercedes makes a HELL of alot better car than bmw ever thought of making.
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:32 PM   #7
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Mercedes vs BMW

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Geez, youre not reading the numbers right.

also, who cares about the s420 or the 745i, theyre both pathetic compared to these.

The s600 has more power, is lighter(the s600 sedan is lighter to the tune of 500 plus pounds, and we havent even gotten the coupe, the 7 series is all SEDANS)

With the engine that bmw has they shouldve gotten way more power, the benz makes all that power with a 5.5L, bmw has a 6.0L. the bmw has 48 valves, benz 36. benz has a SOHC, bmw has a DOHC. plus, the final drive ratio in the benz is better for fuel economy as well. I guess bmw must be ashamed of the mpg they get because they dont list it for those sedans.

Ive done the math, and mercedes makes a HELL of alot better car than bmw ever thought of making.


Mercedes definitely does not make better engines than BMW. Mercedes make pretty good engines but all they're doing is putting up high displacements and super charging or turbo charging (s600) their engines. Bmw on the other are all NA engines. when it comes down to NA engines BMW is still one of the best...and in terms of luxury thas a personal thing. in my opinion the way that mercedes have been trying to cut cost on their cars, it makes it really hard to believe mercedes is better than BMWs. the 760 is probably one of the best luxury sedans ever built..the s600 is a sweet ride also but saying mercedes are HELL of alot better cars than bmws is just wrong..
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Old 06-12-2005, 06:30 PM   #8
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Mercedes Benz! I got a c230 Kompressor and id take it any day compared to a M3-5! But i crashed it yesterday..so im desperate
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Old 06-12-2005, 07:23 PM   #9
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hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahha..... .

Im not laughing cause you crashed your car, Im laughing cause you think your kompressor is the shit.
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Old 06-12-2005, 07:42 PM   #10
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This is about as pathetic as a threat i was recently part of in a watch forum

"Rolex vs. Omega"
Apples to oranges people......
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Old 03-14-2003, 11:11 PM   #11
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mercedes are far better cars, Safer and faster.

more luxurious and all around better, plus they have some of the best handling, and because of there computer systems they can actually "lean" into the turns.
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Old 03-15-2003, 03:45 PM   #12
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BMW all the way.... best performance
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Old 02-22-2004, 04:06 AM   #13
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BMW is not necessarily quicker, or for that matter better better. In terms of engine design, the two Kraut companies make them very similar in the S-class and 7-series. The difference? Mercedes came up with the technology four years before BMW did (1999 v. 2003). Then compare the C32 to the M3. The C32 will smoke it, hands down. The M3 isn;t even second, the Audi S4 with it's 340 horse V8 will smoke it too. The 493 HP E55 will trump the M5, hands down. The only hands down BMW winners are the 7-series and X5, both are new models compared to their MBz counterparts (the X5 barely). Wait until the next wave of Mercedes redesigns and the S-class will be the true winner.

I'd also like to add, before the avalanche of criticism falls in, that each car is differnet. But when I checked and compared my C/D, M/T, R&T, and Automobile mags, I took the averages and the Mbz won overall.
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Old 02-24-2004, 11:41 AM   #14
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After reading this thread I cant help but notice that most people are saying that either BMW or Merc are better than one another in terms of performance and/or reliability, now that might be the case...but these cars are so similar (ie; C230 - 323i or AMG - M-Series) in characteristics and spec that the difference is marginal surely? as these cars are built to rival each other! but if I had to chose, I'd go for BMW as they know how to build a manual transmission (although Merc are getting it sorted....supposedly lol).
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Old 02-27-2004, 10:28 PM   #15
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i like the M5 better, its combines good performance and is visually attractive. I hate Mercedes designs, they are so ugly
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