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Old 07-01-2003, 05:42 AM   #1
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Wow, I'm just opposite. I think the new GTO is a sellout. Just GM's way of cashing in on an old name plate. Just a dressed up Grand Am. The Mustang on the other hand is a modern statement of a timeless design. With every line, bulge, and curve it exudes muscle car. There's no mistaking it for what it is.
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:12 AM   #2
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Any pics of the 2005 Mustangs?

I was womdering if anyone has pics on the new style mutsnags since every1 is talking about it?


GTOs comin back [/u]
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Old 05-27-2003, 01:42 AM   #3
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it was in a car and driver a few months back...forget which month...sorry (it was on the cover and inside too)
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Old 06-19-2003, 04:08 AM   #4
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Old 06-28-2003, 11:44 PM   #5
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The GTO I love, but the Mustang...


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Old 07-16-2003, 12:59 AM   #6
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The Mustang is okay. I'm glad a really cool exotic looking car is being introduced into the market such that you can get one without being a millionaire, but the GTO looks cheap...

The charger looks great. But Dodge stole the Viper's thunder with that front end. Now the Viper looks wimpy, and they're making the Charger the ultimate muscle car... I guess.

I'm young, and stupid, and pretty much all my life, the Viper has owned the road in my views as being the most graceful muscle car.

Still, the Charger has a great look to it, and the Mustang is good too.

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Old 07-16-2003, 03:38 AM   #7
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Wow, I'm just opposite. I think the new GTO is a sellout. Just GM's way of cashing in on an old name plate. Just a dressed up Grand Am. The Mustang on the other hand is a modern statement of a timeless design. With every line, bulge, and curve it exudes muscle car. There's no mistaking it for what it is.

Just a dressed up Grand Am, eh? Oddly enough the Grand Am is FWD with a 4 or 6 cylinder engine. The GTO is RWD with an aluminum 5.7 liter V8. General Motors sure did alot of dressing up to do that. No, wait a minute. It's not a Grand Am at all, it's a repackaged Holden Monaro from our friends in Australia.

In the future please ensure you are at least close to the facts before hitting submit.
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Old 07-16-2003, 04:08 AM   #8
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I'm sorry but it resembles a grocery-getter much more clearly than the mustang does. It is not at all true to it's original name-plate in terms of styling. While calling it a dressed up grand-am is a bit of an overstatement, it holds true in that it is not nearly as performance-oriented as the car it is replacing.
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Old 03-03-2004, 12:55 AM   #9
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I'm sorry but it resembles a grocery-getter much more clearly than the mustang does. It is not at all true to it's original name-plate in terms of styling. While calling it a dressed up grand-am is a bit of an overstatement, it holds true in that it is not nearly as performance-oriented as the car it is replacing.

Dude, what do you think the original GTO was? It was a grocery-getting family car, with a big engine. The original GTO was never meant to be a performance car and even C&D proved that. Infact, C&D hated the car because GM just used the basic Monaro platform. I'm sorry, but vwhobo does know what he's talking about. The GTO was NEVER about performance, but people eventually turned them into performance cars because they had a strong engine.
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Dude, what do you think the original GTO was? It was a grocery-getting family car, with a big engine. The original GTO was never meant to be a performance car and even C&D proved that. Infact, C&D hated the car because GM just used the basic Monaro platform. I'm sorry, but vwhobo does know what he's talking about. The GTO was NEVER about performance, but people eventually turned them into performance cars because they had a strong engine.


Same with the Chevelle too.
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Dude, what do you think the original GTO was? It was a grocery-getting family car, with a big engine. The original GTO was never meant to be a performance car and even C&D proved that. Infact, C&D hated the car because GM just used the basic Monaro platform. I'm sorry, but vwhobo does know what he's talking about. The GTO was NEVER about performance, but people eventually turned them into performance cars because they had a strong engine.
Damn, I'm sorry I know what I'm talking about too. From reading your few posts so far, I'm gonna say you look like you've done more than read "Import Tuner" magazine to learn about cars.

I do have to correct you on one point. When the GTO first came out it was all about performance. That's exactly why they took a stripper grocery getter and put a monster (for the time) engine in it.
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Damn, I'm sorry I know what I'm talking about too. From reading your few posts so far, I'm gonna say you look like you've done more than read "Import Tuner" magazine to learn about cars.

I do have to correct you on one point. When the GTO first came out it was all about performance. That's exactly why they took a stripper grocery getter and put a monster (for the time) engine in it.


What was it based off of when they first came out? Le Mans or the Catalina? There might've been something else too.
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What was it based off of when they first came out? Le Mans or the Catalina? There might've been something else too.
Technically the Tempest. That'd be a good name for a glam rock band.
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Damn, I'm sorry I know what I'm talking about too. From reading your few posts so far, I'm gonna say you look like you've done more than read "Import Tuner" magazine to learn about cars.

I do have to correct you on one point. When the GTO first came out it was all about performance. That's exactly why they took a stripper grocery getter and put a monster (for the time) engine in it.

You know, the main magazines I read are Import Tuner and C&D.

I don't know where I got that the GTO wasn't performance. I might have read something about the Tempest and stuck it with the GTO. The Tempest was the grocery-getter, the GTO was a Tempest with a bigger engine. Damn, I don't know where I got that from.
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You know, the main magazines I read are Import Tuner and C&D.

I don't know where I got that the GTO wasn't performance. I might have read something about the Tempest and stuck it with the GTO. The Tempest was the grocery-getter, the GTO was a Tempest with a bigger engine. Damn, I don't know where I got that from.
Hey, shit happens. I'm still looking for some discussion about "Mutsnags".
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