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Old 07-27-2003, 08:46 AM   #1
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Skyline R34

Skyline R34 sucks.... man its not worth its money at all. Lets see some speculations right here:

$89,500
Miles Per Gallon:14/23
Curb Weight:3395 lbs
Layout:Front-Engine/AWDTransmission:
6-Speed Manual
Engine Type:Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement:2568 cc
Horsepower:276 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque:289 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
Redline:8000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph:5.1 sec
0-100 mph:13.0 sec
Quarter Mile:13.7 sec @ 105 mph
Skidpad:.89gTop Speed:155 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph:121 ft
Slalom Speed:68.1

Why the hell would you buy this... man it sucks for $89,000...juss buy a Zo6. Lets see some stats of the Corvette Zo6:

Type: V8
Displacement: 5665 cc
Horsepower: 405 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm

0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Skidpad: .99g
Top Speed: 171 mph Braking, 60-0 mph:
104 ft Slalom Speed: 70.3 mph\

Look, soo much better... for only $50,000. Name one way it isnt better import/skyline lovers.
 
Old 07-27-2003, 12:16 PM   #2
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Re: Skyline R34

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Skyline R34 sucks.... man its not worth its money at all. Lets see some speculations right here:

$89,500
Miles Per Gallon:14/23
Curb Weight:3395 lbs
Layout:Front-Engine/AWDTransmission:
6-Speed Manual
Engine Type:Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement:2568 cc
Horsepower:276 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque:289 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
Redline:8000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph:5.1 sec
0-100 mph:13.0 sec
Quarter Mile:13.7 sec @ 105 mph
Skidpad:.89gTop Speed:155 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph:121 ft
Slalom Speed:68.1

Why the hell would you buy this... man it sucks for $89,000...juss buy a Zo6. Lets see some stats of the Corvette Zo6:

Type: V8
Displacement: 5665 cc
Horsepower: 405 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm

0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Skidpad: .99g
Top Speed: 171 mph Braking, 60-0 mph:
104 ft Slalom Speed: 70.3 mph\

Look, soo much better... for only $50,000. Name one way it isnt better import/skyline lovers.

Thank you so much for sharing those "speculations" with us. Personally I would have preferred specifications, they're so much more useful. Now for some speculations of my own.

I speculate that you are 13 years old, know very little about cars, and girls don't like you because you're a dork.

I hate to be the one to defend any Japanese car but you come on here spewing your bullshit. Look at your name, you're just looking to start trouble. The Skyline while not my first, or even 21st choice for a car is still a damn nice machine.
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Old 07-28-2003, 03:02 AM   #3
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Saw a R34 V Spec going for 75k AUD Thats about 45 USD. So your getting ripped off

The Skyline GTR claim to have 280hp. Thats due to Japanese HP caps. But there more then that.

As for handling, the GTR would out handle a corvette.

By the way GTRs & Corvettes are great cars.

And as VW pointed out. You have nfi For about 1,500 AUD or what ever that is in USD.. about 1000 dollars. You can have drain pipe exhaust and airfilters with extra boost. You'll be getting more hp then 400.

Read some more magazines
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Old 07-28-2003, 03:04 AM   #4
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No offence, but I seriously doubt that the Skyline will outhandle a corvette. It weighs a lot more, cannot pull nearly the same amount of g's on the skidpad, and has worse weight distribution. I like Skyline's alot, but I just think they're a tad too expensive.
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Old 07-28-2003, 03:59 PM   #5
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Skyline GTR and z06 are so different.

One is a high tech sports car with the latest 4wd system. Wheels Mag rated it better then the Porsche 4wd systems. Its Attessa System is 4wd on demand. The V spec editions come with better software and M Spec goes even better. Which makes it one of the most advanced 4wd systems ever put into a car. Also the skyline has a HICAS system which is 4 wheel steering to help it turn at speed. Plus the GTR comes with a Helical Diff which is superior to Viscous system.

"has worse weight distribution"
Well after having a look at the BMW E46 M3 weight distrubution. They both seem to have 60 40.

So GTR is damn hard to beat in the corners. And having a small 2.6ltr motor vs a heavy 5.7ltr in the front helps a lot too.

Thats the main reason why they were banned from racing in the V8 Super cars here. It was a unfair advantage and thats why they won most of the races. Plus been able to flick a switch and run more boost and get a extra 150hp was seen as cheating

So that my point, 4wd has a huge advantage. Specially a high tech one. Anyway, skid pan is designed for rwd. Why would you bother using a 4wd on a skid pan. I know 4wd can still drift. But rwd is more fun.

I agree with you, In the US the Skyline is a rip off as with most imports there. Countries that have high demand for imports normally are far cheaper. Laws of supply and demand. No Supply and the price goes up.

On the way home I saw a R32 GTR V spec 2 that was 32,000 AUD or just under 20,000 USD.

Anyway here a list for you

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/marketplace/UsedCarDetail.asp?ID=2297305&Criteria=%40Make%3D%2 7NISSAN%27%2C+%40Model%3D%27SKYLINE%27%2C+%40Order By%3D%27P2%27&NoOfRecs=317&PageNo=1&chkRows=500

Thats a TOMMY KIARA edition. There about 400hp (221kws @ all 4 wheels ) and have no problem running a flat 12. (In the right hands even better times) Only a few hundred made.

Location QLD Australia
Price AUD$74,990

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/marketplace/UsedCarDetail.asp?ID=2297930&Criteria=%40Make%3D%2 7NISSAN%27%2C+%40Model%3D%27SKYLINE%27%2C+%40Order By%3D%27P2%27&NoOfRecs=317&PageNo=1&chkRows=500

Price AUD$44,990

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/marketplace/UsedCarDetail.asp?ID=2275769&Criteria=%40Make%3D%2 7NISSAN%27%2C+%40Model%3D%27SKYLINE%27%2C+%40Order By%3D%27P2%27&NoOfRecs=317&PageNo=2&chkRows=500

That is a one off, Nismo Australian edition.
AUD$34,900

All those prices are Australian. Over in Japan there cheaper.. Saw a R33 Gtst for 10,300 AUD. Thats 6,300 dollars US.

Anyway. If you want to get a hold of a Skyline far cheaper or any other import, pm / email me and I'll give you a list of export yards from Japan or even help you find one. So instead of been ripped off "$89,500" maybe 35,000 USD? Plus I've been finding information about getting them complied with US laws which are less restrict then Australian. But to get someone to comply *IT* will not be that easy. Very few places do it and the places that do charge as much as the car is worth. (Skyline Importer In Texas)

But I'm sure there's a way around that problem

Personally, I prefer rear wheel drive cars. More fun to drive.
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Old 07-29-2003, 02:22 AM   #6
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See, I really like Skyline's, and wouldn't mine owning one someday, but 90,000 is realistically always going to be out of my price-range. The Z06 actually has 53/47 weight distribution because (I believe) they mounted the gearbox over the rear-axle. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:40 AM   #7
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Who ever Shane is on the forum or Guest to the forum. I can't email you back anymore for some reason. Anyway That R33 GTSt Type M came to 11,500 USD delivered Washington. Just email the chap in Japan directing if you want to buy it.
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:10 AM   #8
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damn, i never knew skylines were that expensive in the US. here in Aus you can get a reasonable skyline for 50k AUD (approx. 30 000 dollars US) yet im not sure what itll run or anything but its got a fair amount of power
 
Old 07-31-2003, 08:45 PM   #9
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Hey guys im new! Sooo, did u evr think about how much potential the skyline has? The only reason that the skyline is rated at 280 bhp is because Nissan was forced to detune the engine( i dont remember exactly why ) The RB26DETT was putting out 320-350 hp straight from the factory before being detuned. Plus, there is a huge aftermarket for the skyline so you can easily up the hp. wut now fooooo????? 8O
 
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i heard (dont know) that the skylines in jpan are really really cheap cared to anywhere else,but i guess thats so becaue they dont worry about emmisions, at least not as much anymore. i guess cars in japan are starting to have restrictions on them now
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Old 08-04-2003, 12:38 AM   #11
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Re: Skyline R34

import/skyline lovers.[/quote]

Thank you so much for sharing those "speculations" with us. Personally I would have preferred specifications, they're so much more useful. Now for some speculations of my own.

I speculate that you are 13 years old, know very little about cars, and girls don't like you because you're a dork.

I hate to be the one to defend any Japanese car but you come on here spewing your bullshit. Look at your name, you're just looking to start trouble. The Skyline while not my first, or even 21st choice for a car is still a damn nice machine.[/quote]


thats funny shit. the r34 gtr's are fast if you dont leave it stock, if you put some mods on it then it wont be so bad, i mean look at the one on 2F2F, what do u think that car is slow? **** NO!
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thats funny shit. the r34 gtr's are fast if you dont leave it stock, if you put some mods on it then it wont be so bad, i mean look at the one on 2F2F, what do u think that car is slow? f*ck NO!

It's a movie, not real life. Hell it's not even a real movie. Is it slow? No. Is it as fast as it's made to look in the movie? Hell no.
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It's a movie, not real life. Hell it's not even a real movie. Is it slow? No. Is it as fast as it's made to look in the movie? Hell no.


I can't believe he mentioned 2F2F....what is the world coming to? It would be like mentioning SWAT for describing real cops...
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ok i have got quite irritated with this post.

for a start the skyline (stay with GT-R R34) uses the HICAS system, this is a inteligent system. under normal conditins the sysline is effectivly RWD! untill it starts to loose traction. at which point the car becomes 4WD progrssivly untill sucha time there is not loss of traction at the rear wheels. (cars like the WRX and the Evo are perminant 4WD) therefore you get the benifit of RWD in acceleration on the straights, and 4wd out of the corners.
there is also the 4 wheels steering but thats mainly at low speeds.

secondly the R34 holds the record for record for amount of G possible to be pulled areound the corner in a production car. (the previous holder was the R33) dont belive me check the on board computer! complete with center mounted screen and G-meter. and more g around corners equates to more grip thus better cornering ability.

the book says that the 2.6 R34 GT-R is 280 BHP the (same as the 2.5 GTS) becasue the Japanees have a gentalmans agreement (similar to the germans) restricting power of mass produced cars to 280 BHP (the accual figure is more like 338 BHP) and 155 MPH dereistricting the engine govener allows correct top end of closer to 188 MPH.

considering the skyline is a comfatable 4 seater weighing in at only 300lbs more than the Zo6 that coupled with emision laws resulting in (iirc) 3 in line cats resulting in less less BHP.

and it seams that americans are meerly content with going fast in a straight line. i.e point and squirt mussle cars. where any "driver" knows that corners are the true test of ability. how fast in, through and out (kinda like a good mexican meal )

i do actual like the the essance of the Zo6, but why havent they progressed in the 'the 70 DODGE CHALLENGER R/T COUPE produced 445BHP thats one figue i know and im sure there are otheres with more impressive figures im more inpressed with the Ford GT with its 500Bhp.

but its still just a 2 seater.

a jap company called Top secret created a R33 with 1001 BHP and it still hold the 0-200 Mph record. and the fastet lap time at Nuremberg ring.

now can anyone guess where my loyaltiy lies?

yes i will be buying a skyline when i find the one i like for the money i want to spend. and i will be replacing my GM (vauxhall) V6 (american engine) Vecta GSI to get my sklyline. Rant over and if anyone complains about my spelling i will S**T in your ceral
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ok i have got quite irritated with this post.
Me too, and now you've irritated me even more.

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secondly the R34 holds the record for record for amount of G possible to be pulled areound the corner in a production car. (the previous holder was the R33) dont belive me check the on board computer! complete with center mounted screen and G-meter. and more g around corners equates to more grip thus better cornering ability.
Whether or not this is true, the only thing it proves is MAXIMUM cornering force on a perfectly prepared surface. In the real world handling is all about being able to cope with varied surfaces and vehicle dynamics that allow it to deal with transitions in throttle, steering and braking inputs.

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the book says that the 2.6 R34 GT-R is 280 BHP the (same as the 2.5 GTS) becasue the Japanees have a gentalmans agreement (similar to the germans) restricting power of mass produced cars to 280 BHP (the accual figure is more like 338 BHP) and 155 MPH dereistricting the engine govener allows correct top end of closer to 188 MPH.
Well you're almost correct. As mentioned previously by me (I think in this thread) it's a law in Japan that cars can only produce a certain level of horsepower, so it is in fact under rated.

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considering the skyline is a comfatable 4 seater weighing in at only 300lbs more than the Zo6 that coupled with emision laws resulting in (iirc) 3 in line cats resulting in less less BHP.
In your opinion. The one's I've been in are torture chambers. If the three cats on the Skyline are a point of contention for you, why didn't you mention the four cats on the Vette?

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and it seams that americans are meerly content with going fast in a straight line. i.e point and squirt mussle cars. where any "driver" knows that corners are the true test of ability. how fast in, through and out (kinda like a good mexican meal )
You're assuming again, but this time you made an ass out of you but not out of me. The ability to get through a corner quickly does take ability, but that is not the sole ability required to drive fast. Sorry to burst your bubble but any true driver knows that.

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i do actual like the the essance of the Zo6, but why havent they progressed in the 'the 70 DODGE CHALLENGER R/T COUPE produced 445BHP thats one figue i know and im sure there are otheres with more impressive figures im more inpressed with the Ford GT with its 500Bhp.
Good for you but please stop throwing around your made up numbers.

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yes i will be buying a skyline when i find the one i like for the money i want to spend. and i will be replacing my GM (vauxhall) V6 (american engine) Vecta GSI to get my sklyline. Rant over and if anyone complains about my spelling i will S**T in your ceral
Yes, your spelling is absolutely atrocious. Apparently English is a second language in Australia. So by the way, what exactly is your point?
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