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Old 11-16-2005, 02:35 AM   #106
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Thanks chris for having the energy to bring him up to speed. Seems like he has been living in a box for a number of years now. And for the record, i said mitsu has a "history" of cover ups that was all over the news and forums, but like was mentioned these guys did some major crap for years and years (Yikes!)

Either way, the point is Mitsu management sucked monkey balls and in my eyes have ruined their company's reputation. I will be hesitant at the least to buy any mitsu.

Hardly living in a box....But enough with the petty insults.

I have REALLY paid attention to the news very closely for probably 3-5 years now and never saw a case brought up that was such a huge scandal for mitsubishi. Sorry if I missed it 15 years ago when I still hadn't hit 10. That's your choice not to buy it, I dont care that much what happens up top, they make a superior vehicle I'm all over it (New Eclipse leaves much to be desired). Anywho, Mitsubishi will have to get saved by someone, and I dont think Daimler Chrysler can do it...
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:36 AM   #107
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Ok I'm a Mitsu and Subi fan. The new Subaru doesn't look all that great in the front but it does perform a tad better than the new evo MR. Also the evo is a bit more expensive than the STI but if your willing to pay a bit more for the beautiful body style of an evo than go for it.

Actually the Evo can be cheaper (Evolution RS) the same price (Evolution IX) or more expensive (Evolution MR), than the STi.
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Old 11-16-2005, 03:23 AM   #108
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Sorry if I missed it 15 years ago when I still hadn't hit 10. Anywho, Mitsubishi will have to get saved by someone, and I dont think Daimler Chrysler can do it...

Hardly, IIRC it was in the last few months at most, definitely this year, the news headlines that is. Mitsu is struggling mightily, but the Mitsubishi group is rich and powerful (especially that bank), they bailed MMC out already.
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:57 PM   #109
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I ackowledged they have been in finanical hurt for YEARS, just didn't know RECENTLY they have been caught in scandals. I really could care less though, I'll buy something if it's good.

Same here. OF course, I think more cars are good than most people. I just hate teh hypocracy. Japanese companies have had a history of covering up defects and issuing "quiet recalls" where the cars would get teh updated fixes whenver they were sceduled for other service. All the major japanese makes did that. While Ford, GM, and Chrysler were getting bad public opinion for issuing public recalls, the Japanese had people convinced that their cars never needed recalls, since they never (or rarely) issued any. That's changing, as we now see a spate of Honda and toyota recalls for fire or potential crash issues. The cars really haven't gotten worse. they just can't get away with silent recalls anymore.
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:59 PM   #110
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Hardly living in a box....But enough with the petty insults.

I have REALLY paid attention to the news very closely for probably 3-5 years now and never saw a case brought up that was such a huge scandal for mitsubishi. Sorry if I missed it 15 years ago when I still hadn't hit 10.

Again, the dates on the links show that it was the years 2000 to 2004, not 15 years ago.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:43 PM   #111
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I see, but doesnt GM own Alfa too>?



that is the ugliest car i have ever seen..... looks like the b9 tribeca
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:07 PM   #112
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Again, the dates on the links show that it was the years 2000 to 2004, not 15 years ago.

So I may have missed an hour of the news?
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So I may have missed an hour of the news?

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I did admit it, I said I missed it!
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Same here. OF course, I think more cars are good than most people. I just hate teh hypocracy. Japanese companies have had a history of covering up defects and issuing "quiet recalls" where the cars would get teh updated fixes whenver they were sceduled for other service. All the major japanese makes did that. While Ford, GM, and Chrysler were getting bad public opinion for issuing public recalls, the Japanese had people convinced that their cars never needed recalls, since they never (or rarely) issued any. That's changing, as we now see a spate of Honda and toyota recalls for fire or potential crash issues. The cars really haven't gotten worse. they just can't get away with silent recalls anymore.

Well said. Ignorance is bliss.
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Well said. Ignorance is bliss.
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