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Old 04-06-2006, 06:50 AM   #1
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Best Sleeper...

In your opinion what car is the best sleeper around. The car that no one expects to see at a drag strip?

Sorta like vwhobo's Vids of VW Beetles... I never expected that out of those little cars. (Not to drift to far off topic) What exactly have they done to give that car so much power? Have they swaped in a small block or what?

My vote goes to they Astro/Safari Mini Vans...

http://www.dragtruk.com/PICS/L7GSR748GYM94.mpg

A eleven second soccer mom van, Never would have expected that either!
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Old 04-06-2006, 02:30 PM   #2
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In your opinion what car is the best sleeper around. The car that no one expects to see at a drag strip?

Anything dog slow in stock form that doesn't have a history in racing circles of being fast.

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Sorta like vwhobo's Vids of VW Beetles... I never expected that out of those little cars. (Not to drift to far off topic) What exactly have they done to give that car so much power? Have they swaped in a small block or what?

YOu may not have expected it, but you aren't going to see too many of them allowed in musclecar drag racing events or import racing events, as drag bugs have been going seriously fast since the late '60s, with air cooled Bug engines.

I found it amusing back in the mid '90s when the Import Drags started really catching on. Magazines would spend pages discussing the 11-12 second Civics, and 10-11 second Supras, and would print one sentence somwhere at the bottom next to a tiny picture: "And here's Chris Bubbetz's VW Bug pulling a low 9 second pass." Yeah, can't have all those modern megabuck imports being bested by a 4 cyl pushrod engine in a 30+ year old car...
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Old 04-06-2006, 03:35 PM   #3
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Anything dog slow in stock form that doesn't have a history in racing circles of being fast.



YOu may not have expected it, but you aren't going to see too many of them allowed in musclecar drag racing events or import racing events, as drag bugs have been going seriously fast since the late '60s, with air cooled Bug engines.

I found it amusing back in the mid '90s when the Import Drags started really catching on. Magazines would spend pages discussing the 11-12 second Civics, and 10-11 second Supras, and would print one sentence somwhere at the bottom next to a tiny picture: "And here's Chris Bubbetz's VW Bug pulling a low 9 second pass." Yeah, can't have all those modern megabuck imports being bested by a 4 cyl pushrod engine in a 30+ year old car...

1.perfect explanation

2. i agree, I dont get why magazines think people are automatically interested in certain things, im suprised how many people here at CF
actually like beetles too +1 lol
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Old 04-06-2006, 04:08 PM   #4
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I'd like to see someone shoehorn a V8 into a 5th generation Accord, but that's just me.

Just about any car you see everyday can be a great sleeper.
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Old 04-06-2006, 04:13 PM   #5
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I'd like to see someone shoehorn a V8 into a 5th generation Accord, but that's just me.

Just about any car you see everyday can be a great sleeper.
I wanna see a Veyron with an LS1...I wonder if it would even move
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:57 PM   #6
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Turbo Caravan.

Some people know they can be pretty quick when modded, some have not a clue...

I actually saw an exhaust modded Mustang GT (96-98 4.6L model) line up with a turbo Caravan and it was really funny. Mustang ran a 14.7 and the turbo Caravan did a 13.9. Talked to the Mustang driver after the race and he said this...

"When I lined up against him I laughed knowing it was old four banger van, then after I saw his taillights after the 330' mark I nearly SH*T in my pants"

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That's what a sleeper is all about.
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:51 PM   #7
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Old 04-06-2006, 10:22 PM   #8
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My moms 1998 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi is definatly a sleeper. Last summer it ran a 13 flat at the drag strip.

[img=http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1615/p10119481ew.th.jpg]

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5% smaller supercharger pulley, hollowed out cats., and an ECU tune. Shes a beast, and you wouldnt even expect it. Its so much fun lining up against a Z28 or SS Camaro, or a Mustang GT and just walking 'em.

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Old 04-06-2006, 10:32 PM   #9
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My moms 1998 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi is definatly a sleeper. Last summer it ran a 13 flat at the drag strip.

[img=http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1615/p10119481ew.th.jpg]

[img=http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6582/p10119504ba.th.jpg]

[img=http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9774/p10119533fl.th.jpg]

5% smaller supercharger pulley, hollowed out cats., and an ECU tune. Shes a beast, and you wouldnt even expect it. Its so much fun lining up against a Z28 or SS Camaro, or a Mustang GT and just walking 'em.

13 flat or 14 flat?

A stock one does in the high 14s. With those mods I can see a 14 flat possible...but 13 flat would take a helluva lot more.
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Old 04-06-2006, 10:37 PM   #10
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13 flat or 14 flat?

A stock one does in the high 14s. With those mods I can see a 14 flat possible...but 13 flat would take a helluva lot more.

It was close to a 13 flat. I just rounded from 13.16. That was with traction control, perform shift, and perform ride on. Slicks on the front too.
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:41 AM   #11
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It was close to a 13 flat. I just rounded from 13.16. That was with traction control, perform shift, and perform ride on. Slicks on the front too.
Really? How do you keep the MIL from staying illuminated?
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:29 AM   #12
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maybe it's part of the "ecu tune"...

i put a mild 305 (i know, redundant) in my friend's chevy astro cable installation van, that was a pretty fun ride and surprised a few folks. doubled his fuel mileage from his f*cked up 4.3, as well (9 mpg to 18 mpg)
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:42 AM   #13
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:22 AM   #14
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How do you keep the MIL from staying illuminated?

What is a MIL?
Something Somthing Light...?
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:23 AM   #15
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What is a MIL?
Something Somthing Light...?
Malfunction indicator light.
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