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Old 07-08-2006, 05:09 AM   #1
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dsm smoking question

a friend of mine recently bought a 1990 AWD turbo talon. the problem is, it smokes out the exhaust and the engine. after looking at it, the smoke is not coming from the turbo, so it's not the turbo. it is, however coming from the head, but it is NOT the gasket, b/c it doesnt smell like coolant. after talking with him, i found out that the car had been sitting for a while when he bought it. could that be the reason it is smoking? what can be done to stop it? will it eventually stop as new oil and gas runs through it?
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:51 AM   #2
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It probably is the valve cover gasket, allowing oil to get in. What color is the smoke?
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Old 07-08-2006, 01:45 PM   #3
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It probably is the valve cover gasket, allowing oil to get in. What color is the smoke?
A "valve cover gasket, allowing oil to get in"? Allowing oil to get in where? You do realize of course that the valve cover gasket's job it to keep oil in and not let it out. This forum seemed much smarter while you weren't here. Do us a favor and go away again.

P.S. Don't tell me the spark plug tubes because oil can't leak past the plugs into the combustion chambers.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:14 PM   #4
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the smoke is white, but as vwhobo said, all the valve cover gasket does is keeps the oil in. as far as the smoke, it does NOT smell like it would be coolant, like i said, and if it were burning oil, it wouldnt be smoking this much.

VWHOBO...do you think it could be mearly the legnth of time that is sat that is causing it to smoke?
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Old 07-08-2006, 10:46 PM   #5
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the smoke is white, but as vwhobo said, all the valve cover gasket does is keeps the oil in. as far as the smoke, it does NOT smell like it would be coolant, like i said, and if it were burning oil, it wouldnt be smoking this much.

VWHOBO...do you think it could be mearly the legnth of time that is sat that is causing it to smoke?
Sitting does not make a car smoke. If you have white smoke it is most likely coolant, but... If the car hasn't been run enough to dry condensation out of the exhaust system it could be nothing more than moisture in the cat/muffler. Is it using coolant? Are you sure it's white and not blue? The reason the car was parked might be bad turbo seals.
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Old 07-09-2006, 04:09 AM   #6
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yes, the smoke, IS white, and it doesnt smell like it is burning coolent. and the smoke isnt coming from anywhere near the turbo
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Old 07-09-2006, 02:08 PM   #7
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yes, the smoke, IS white, and it doesnt smell like it is burning coolent. and the smoke isnt coming from anywhere near the turbo
Moron. Turbo seals are INTERNAL, of course the smoke doesn't come from anywhere near the turbo. Since you obviously know so much about what the problem isn't, it shouldn't be any problem for you to determine what the problem is. I'm sure you won't be needing our help anymore.
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Old 07-09-2006, 08:17 PM   #8
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well thanks for that little insult asshole......
sometimes us as humans make mistakes, you know...like forgeting to mention something. i forgot to mention that the turbo and turbo seals were brand new.
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Old 07-09-2006, 09:12 PM   #9
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well thanks for that little insult asshole......
sometimes us as humans make mistakes, you know...like forgeting to mention something. i forgot to mention that the turbo and turbo seals were brand new.
Why am I the asshole when it's YOU who seems to not be able to communicate effectively? It's not my fault that YOU are either unwilling or unable to provide us with enough pertinent information to make an educated guess.

Maybe if your head was not so far inserted up you know where, you would have started here and then we'd ALL have a better chance of figuring this out. Most likey the possibility of that is, fat chance.
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Old 07-09-2006, 11:18 PM   #10
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If the smoke billows out of the exhaust and doesn't dissapate readily, it's probably oil in the exhaust side. My initial thought is you have a leaky turbine seal. Could the smoke in the engine compartment be residual oil, a leaking bango on the CHRA, incorrect grease on the metal exhaust flange gasket to the turbo, ....? If you lift the oil cap is there a smoke flume?
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ok vwhobo, sorry about the asshole thing. i was just a little agrivated. but i would like some help trying to figure this out. the smoke is white, and i have read that this could be due to o-ring failure. what r some ways i could check the o rings w/ out taking the engine apart? will oring failure mess up the compression? would a simple compression check help?
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Old 07-10-2006, 09:39 AM   #12
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Are you referring to bore binders?
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well i have never heard of them refered to as bore binders. i am refering to the piston rings. would a compression check be a way of seeing if that is part of the problem?
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well i have never heard of them refered to as bore binders. i am refering to the piston rings. would a compression check be a way of seeing if that is part of the problem?
You haven't even bothered to tell us yet where the smoke is coming from forcing us to assume. Maybe if you'd slow down and put on your thinking cap you'd realize that a good answer starts with a good question. And in the case of something like this, a good question starts with a good description.
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Old 07-10-2006, 08:34 PM   #15
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ok...then allow me to start over.....

the car is a 1990 AWD talon. it has white smoke coming from the exhaust and from between the exhaust manifold and the head. the only reason it is coming from the manifold, is b/c it only has 3 studs holding it on at the moment. (i JUST found that out.) it does NOT smell like coolant, and it IS white. like stated before, it has been sitting for quite some time. is that enough info to start with?? let me know.
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