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Old 03-06-2005, 11:47 AM   #1
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Sup all,

My name is Steven (everyone calls me Stem). A little while ago i purchased a 95 accord. Thus far ive just fixed it up, back into good shape, now it looks almost stock. However now ive finished making it 'normal' i want to supe it up. And first and to me, most importantly is the audio. I've heard it all, but I want some good decent audio, i mean the whole system. For decks i heard Panasonic arent that bad. Subs i heard Rockford Fosgate P2's are the best, and and Obden enclousure. However no word on a amplifier, or best to replace the stock speakers in the front door and back deck. So if someone could just educate me on what is the best system for a guy on a lower budget. Thanks in advance,

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Old 03-06-2005, 10:27 PM   #2
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The cheapest system out there would be to sing to yourself, I do it, people give you wierd looks, but hey, let em laughat you in their...cars... with radios and morre than one seat, and interior panneling, and air conditioning.

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Old 03-06-2005, 11:52 PM   #3
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pioneer also makes good head units. for speakers id look at infinity reference, powered by an alpine amp. the p2s arent bad for subs either but you could probably find better.
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Old 03-08-2005, 06:01 PM   #4
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Sup all,

My name is Steven (everyone calls me Stem). A little while ago i purchased a 95 accord. Thus far ive just fixed it up, back into good shape, now it looks almost stock. However now ive finished making it 'normal' i want to supe it up. And first and to me, most importantly is the audio. I've heard it all, but I want some good decent audio, i mean the whole system. For decks i heard Panasonic arent that bad. Subs i heard Rockford Fosgate P2's are the best, and and Obden enclousure. However no word on a amplifier, or best to replace the stock speakers in the front door and back deck. So if someone could just educate me on what is the best system for a guy on a lower budget. Thanks in advance,

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RF Punch - Junk
Panasonic HU's - Very good, also look at Alpine, eclipse and Pioneer
Obcon Enclosure
Amp- Hifonics

Get some Volfenhag DVC all aluminums, $50 at ikesound.com. Will out pound and sound better than even the RF Punch Stage 3's and cost half as much.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:15 AM   #5
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Sweet, thanks for that info bro. Im writing it down right now. And ill have all my stuff ordered by the weekend. Once again thank you for the help.

One more question, with me now having all the information for the subs, do you think i should get some tweeters or replace the stock speaker system in there, you know the front door panel and the back deck? 'Cause i dont want a crapload of bass with no mid and treble to back it up.

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Old 03-11-2005, 05:02 AM   #6
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Sweet, thanks for that info bro. Im writing it down right now. And ill have all my stuff ordered by the weekend. Once again thank you for the help.

One more question, with me now having all the information for the subs, do you think i should get some tweeters or replace the stock speaker system in there, you know the front door panel and the back deck? 'Cause i dont want a crapload of bass with no mid and treble to back it up.
Usually it's better to replace stock speakers and HU before adding a mono amp and sub simply due to the fact you'll drown out all the weak mids and high from the weak stock system with the new sub setup. So it would be a good idea. Give me your budget for replacing the four speakers and adding an amp to power them.
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Old 03-12-2005, 10:33 AM   #7
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Hmm.... budget for the whole enchilada would probably be somewhere round 500-700 dollar range. Mas o Menos
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Old 03-12-2005, 04:30 PM   #8
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Hmm.... budget for the whole enchilada would probably be somewhere round 500-700 dollar range. Mas o Menos

You cant buy a full setup (HU, amps, subs, speakers) for 700 or under. You could, but wow, that's really going to sound shitty. The subs/amp/box combo alone is going to cost $450. A good HU (with 4v-5v pre-outs and other goodies) will cost you $250-$300. A set of four good co-axial speakers will run you $120-$140 and an amp to drive them will be another $120-$150.
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Old 03-13-2005, 11:17 AM   #9
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Aight... so your saying like 900 minimum, aight will put in some extra hours :P

what kinda speakers u recommend to replace the stocks?
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Old 03-13-2005, 03:27 PM   #10
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i heard the infinity referance were great, for replacing stock speakers.
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Old 03-13-2005, 05:15 PM   #11
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Aight... so your saying like 900 minimum, aight will put in some extra hours :P

what kinda speakers u recommend to replace the stocks?

The Pioneer TS-A series is a great sounding set of co-ax speakers for their price. Ikesound.com has the 6.5" (best 6.5") for $49 which is a good price.

http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/2736

Some other co-ax sets to look at are Alpine Type-S and Kicker KS65's (both you can find at ikesound.com).

If you are willing to spend a little more I highly recommend Orion C63's (onlinecarstereo.com has a sale on them for only $79/pair), these with an amp are one of THE best co-ax speakers I've heard.

I saw that one person recommended the Infinity Reference and the only reason I can't second those (Im not a big infinity speaker fan because of this) is because their tweeters are WAY too bright and ear piercing for my tastes (you might like them though).

Reminder : All those co-ax speakers listed above NEED an external amp (around 50rms a piece) to really come alive. Amping these with only your HU (which usually are anywhere from 15-25rms/channel) will make these sound like any other basic co-ax.
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Old 03-26-2005, 10:46 AM   #12
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Quick question, when u say 50 rms a peice does that mean i would need an amp with minimum 200 rms to power those 4 speakers? (what is rms?)

And what brand/model do recommend for the external amp for those speakers?

And also ive been looking at these 2 HU's, i used crutchfield for comparison reasons only, but which do you recommend, now my antennae doesn't work so i wont be using the tuner, just my cd's. which do u think is better ?
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Old 03-27-2005, 08:04 PM   #13
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Quick question, when u say 50 rms a peice does that mean i would need an amp with minimum 200 rms to power those 4 speakers? (what is rms?)

And what brand/model do recommend for the external amp for those speakers?

And also ive been looking at these 2 HU's, i used crutchfield for comparison reasons only, but which do you recommend, now my antennae doesn't work so i wont be using the tuner, just my cd's. which do u think is better ?
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Yes 50rms/channel into 4 channels (4 speakers) is 200rms. Just find a 35-50x4rms amp (Alpine,Kicker,Orion,Hifonics). RMS is basically continuous watts, what your speakers/amp normally operate at. Dont pay attention to Maximum wattage specs.

As for a HU, both of those are good, but for the price you can get better. In particular...

http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/2091

That HU is very nice and is an excellent price for it (the two HU's you listed only have ~2v preouts...this one has 4v preouts).
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:55 PM   #14
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Get some Volfenhag DVC all aluminums, $50 at ikesound.com. Will out pound and sound better than even the RF Punch Stage 3's and cost half as much.

Do you know what they sound like if they're backwards mounted? (Cone facing in, magnet out) With the design of my trunk I was limited to how big I could make the boxes so they're 1cf max a piece, so I want to get the most out of them, and they don't have a half bad looking magnet.
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:56 AM   #15
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Do you know what they sound like if they're backwards mounted? (Cone facing in, magnet out) With the design of my trunk I was limited to how big I could make the boxes so they're 1cf max a piece, so I want to get the most out of them, and they don't have a half bad looking magnet.

I never heard them backwards mounted...never did like that principle in the first place, so cant help you there. They are the best sound subs in their pricerange I've EVER heard and I'd like to hear any sub from ANYWHERE (not used) less than $100 that can pound as hard and be as clean as the Volf DVC.
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