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Old 05-18-2004, 06:14 AM   #1
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Difference between MT and AT

Hey guys, please excuse my noobness, but I would like to know the differences between MT and AT when it comes to racing. Like what advantages does MT have over AT and thus making it alot more desireable to use than AT?
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Old 05-18-2004, 06:30 AM   #2
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Hey guys, please excuse my noobness, but I would like to know the differences between MT and AT when it comes to racing. Like what advantages does MT have over AT and thus making it alot more desireable to use than AT?
Well, a manual transmission is always more desirable due to the fact that it's more driver orientated, for example, in a manual, you change gear when you want to. This also makes for far better judgment when entering or exiting a bend/corner. Some people prefer an auto to race with (cant for the life of me think why though lol), I'm guessing it's because most US cars are offered with auto's rather than manuals? Anyway, that just about sums it up, bassically, things tend to happen alot slower in an automatic car...especially if you are racing it!

btw, I'll move this to the 'General cars' board!
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Old 05-18-2004, 08:08 PM   #3
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some autos come with auto-manuals, where you can shift gears w/o a clutch for racing. this shifting is slightly better than reg. autos as you can rev the engine to higher rpms.

Some of the autos are extremely good and sometimes superior to manual shifting, like tiptronic. With better technology, the advantages of manuls are quickly disappearing.
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Old 05-18-2004, 08:11 PM   #4
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some autos come with auto-manuals, where you can shift gears w/o a clutch for racing. this shifting is slightly better than reg. autos as you can rev the engine to higher rpms.

Explain why? Same engine...one traditional manual...the other an auto-manual. How is the auto-manual able to rev "higher" than the other?

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Explain why? Same engine...one traditional manual...the other an auto-manual. How is the auto-manual able to rev "higher" than the other?

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lol...very true Bav....what's all this 'fanboi' stuff...you talking pimp language?

as for the semi-automatic thing, I agree with you, Bav!....If you dont shift gear the car does the job for you eventually, it's the same as down shifting, if the ECU thinks the car's going too fast, it wont let you shift down untill you reach a sensible speed!
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lol...very true Bav....what's all this 'fanboi' stuff...you talking pimp language?

That's not the only one...
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That's not the only one...
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I know, I noticed 'offical' too
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I know 'offical' too

I read it as "Oh-fecal"...not the same thing, aye?
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I read it as "Oh-fecal"...not the same thing, aye?
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Who know's what he meant...he's a psycho , remember? lol
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ill fix offical in a moment, but i refuse to change 'fanboi', its a different way of saying i am vwhobo fan.

the auto-manual is able to rev higher than a traditional auto because the user determines when to shift to another gear w/o the clutch. the car will not automatically shift to the next gear when the auto-manual is engaged. i think there are exceptions, but this is true for the most part.
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ill fix offical in a moment, but i refuse to change 'fanboi', its a different way of saying i am vwhobo fan.

the auto-manual is able to rev higher than a traditional auto because the user determines when to shift to another gear w/o the clutch. the car will not automatically shift to the next gear when the auto-manual is engaged. i think there are exceptions, but this is true for the most part.
I've driven many semi's....from Alfa's Selespeed to modern BMW/Merc setups, and all the examples I've driven have done the shifting, as a last resort, I guess, incase the driver forgets lol. Also, standard auto's usually have a sports mode which will let them rev alot higher than usual too
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well in that case, you know more than me. i stand corrected. i was thinking of the 350z.
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some autos come with auto-manuals, where you can shift gears w/o a clutch for racing. this shifting is slightly better than reg. autos as you can rev the engine to higher rpms.

Some of the autos are extremely good and sometimes superior to manual shifting, like tiptronic. With better technology, the advantages of manuls are quickly disappearing.

Ok...you were comparing auto trans to auto-manual (tiptronic). Now it makes sense.

Keep your tiptronic and auto-manuals...give me the clutch pedal and a stick. Much more fun in my opinion.
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Also, standard auto's usually have a sports mode which will let them rev alot higher than usual too

My wife's 740 has it...boy what a difference!!
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My wife's 740 has it...boy what a difference!!
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Yes, it's a great device, I'm glad auto's atleast have some sporting functions lol. I agree with you that a manual is far better though, Manual all the way!


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the auto-manual is able to rev higher than a traditional auto because the user determines when to shift to another gear w/o the clutch. the car will not automatically shift to the next gear when the auto-manual is engaged. i think there are exceptions, but this is true for the most part.


Then you say this lol...
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well in that case, you know more than me. i stand corrected. i was thinking of the 350z.
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