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Old 12-21-2005, 01:51 AM   #31
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Why do you say that? If I didn't want advice, I wouldn't have asked. At this point I'm just (quite) a bit overwhelmed with the information.

Mostly because you have a computer tech, and he's paid to do computer stuff for you, and probably has more patience than us. Secondly, if you wanted computer advice, you'd head to a computer forum, regardless to which user is full of crap, you're going to get a good answer sooner or later. Just post your question, and wait a day. There are people on those forums that know what they're talking about, and will refute/reaffirm what is correct and what is not.

Like I said before; get your computer tech to explain things to you. He'll do an infinitely better job at helping you than us (or anyone else on the internet, for that matter).
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:52 AM   #32
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have you ever thought about buying refurb??? That is a great way to save $ and get minimal (sp?) results
I wouldn't have any problem with doing that, as long as it looked good (as in not beat up) and worked well.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:01 AM   #33
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VWhobo isn't going to buy pirated goods, I can guarantee you that now. And also, the only real difference between pro and home is networking. So what problems did you have with home?



NTFS stands for NT file system. It's a new partition to upgrade security and faster loading from the hard drive. NTFS is much better than FAT32.


Is this 3-3-3 latency RAM?
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I'm out of this thread until the hobo manages to answer my inquiries.
Im not gona sell it im offering it free of charge.
Well he should go with the FAT32 then, I think thats waht my format is.
It didnt say it just said DDR
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:02 AM   #34
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I like how everyone thinks that buying new is the only option. The hobo doesn't want a top of the line comp for playing games, he wants it for business stuff (I presume). And there are places out there that you can get old pentium 2 VERTICAL processors for dirt cheap.
Tigerdirect.com has things like that. As well as Newegg.com
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:03 AM   #35
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Im not gona sell it im offering it free of charge.
Well he should go with the FAT32 then, I think thats waht my format is.
It didnt say it just said DDR


1. That's still piracy and illegal
2. You mean NTFS?
3. Double data rate is on every random acces memory module around. DDR2 is evern better, and the latency rate refers to the time it takes to go into the module, and retrieve information. 3-3-3 is about as good as you're going to get.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:07 AM   #36
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I'm still lost on most of this, but I don't want any part of anything that's even remotely illegal. I like bunking with my wife, not some sweaty guy named Bubba.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:19 AM   #37
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OK VW,
Newyorker is correct. the system you spec'd out is very outdated.
I have been building both comm and home systems since 1980.

PM me if you want help.

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Old 12-21-2005, 03:04 AM   #38
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OK VW,
Newyorker is correct. the system you spec'd out is very outdated.
I have been building both comm and home systems since 1980.

PM me if you want help.

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Old 12-21-2005, 03:29 AM   #39
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Wait...$700 for a basic computer?

I was in Costco the other day, and the best I could find was a $900 computer, with 2 Gigs RAM, and 250 Gigs HDD, not sure about the Processor, but I think it was AMD 64 3500 3.2 GHZ

So you could probably get one for under $200 (Without the monitor)...

Is this for home or work?

http://listings.ebay.ca/_W0QQsocmdZL...&so=Show+Items

All of those seem to fit your requirements...

But a computer with those specs would be hard to find with broadband...of course you could just have your computer fast internet prepared at a local shop...I know my dad did that for his...

Also, why up to 3 DVD-Rom drives

And if it's for training videos, why not a laptop?...
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:39 AM   #40
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Wait...$700 for a basic computer?

I was in Costco the other day, and the best I could find was a $900 computer, with 2 Gigs RAM, and 250 Gigs HDD, not sure about the Processor, but I think it was AMD 64 3500 3.2 GHZ

So you could probably get one for under $200 (Without the monitor)...

Is this for home or work?

http://listings.ebay.ca/_W0QQsocmdZL...&so=Show+Items

All of those seem to fit your requirements...

But a computer with those specs would be hard to find with broadband...of course you could just have your computer fast internet prepared at a local shop...I know my dad did that for his...

Also, why up to 3 DVD-Rom drives

And if it's for training videos, why not a laptop?...

Go read the First sentence of the FIRST post.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:41 AM   #41
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Go read the First sentence of the FIRST post.

I saw that, but I also saw this:

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Sound Card and speakers (For training videos)

And I assumed it was for training new employees...
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:54 AM   #42
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To get a refurb system, just check around, a lot of local shops do it. Just because you can spit out websites like www.newegg.com or www.tigerdirect.com or www.pricewatch.com doesn't mean that you should use them. And I really hate assholes like some peole selling "pirated" copies on eBay. and thinking they are cool.. cause its not
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:14 AM   #43
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VWhobo isn't going to buy pirated goods, I can guarantee you that now. And also, the only real difference between pro and home is networking. So what problems did you have with home?



NTFS stands for NT file system. It's a new partition to upgrade security and faster loading from the hard drive. NTFS is much better than FAT32.


Is this 3-3-3 latency RAM?
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The Hobo doesn't want our advice, and I'm curious to know why.
I'm out of this thread until the hobo manages to answer my inquiries.


Even though i agree with EVERYTHING you said there is something that is just bugging me. The only REAL difference between pro and h.e is...well nothing. Not even networking. That was the claim when both came out but with the sp2 out really just a little minor change in the GUI and that's about it. Something DLL are slightly different in cases of more for pro just for better ADMIN resources but outside of that.. nothing. I do agree with everything you are saying not that it really means anything but for my purposes
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:24 AM   #44
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***NO JARGON** well i'll throw my 2 cents in for what it's worth, if you need it strictly for buisness, with such programs as Lankar or alldata and mitchell use i would recommend dell, and like the other guy said this is the only situation i would recommend dell, for home use dell's can be a bitch to upgrade and do what you wish with, but in our shop we had 2 dell's and the boss just upgraded with another dell. they are very reliable we've never had one crash yet as long as your employees dont surf porn at work, im on the shop comp right now but will browse the dell page and see if i can pick a package or two that would suit your buisness(whatever that may be...is it the shop somputer you need)your system requirments are out of date unless you have mitchell on a big ass floppy disk, i would guess you have all new programs so you'll just need a dvd rom(our all data disks needed a dvd rom), if you go with the paid computer geek he'll probably try to "save you big bucks" and build it himself, not recommended, dell's have warrenty and 24 hour phone tech help. anyway i'll post later tonight with a package that will probably suit you or you can check out dell.com(or sum shit like that) yourself.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:33 PM   #45
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Gonna second that Dell recommendation. I've bought a couple cheap bottom end Dells for friends and family, and they've been absolutely outstanding. My Dell high end laptop has been flawless for over a year so far, and the computer I'm tyoing this on at work is a 3 year old high end Dell workstation.

Right now you can get from dell for $499 a 2.8ghz pentium 4 machine with a 17 inch flat panel monitor, XP media center, 256 meg ram, 80 gig hard drive, DVD Rom ($60 for a dual DVD rom/CD burner combo), and $25 more for an integrated Sound Blaster setup.

For the same price you could get a wireless Dell Inspiron laptop with 15.4 inch screen, cd burner/dvd drive, 40 gig harddrive and wireless network card... These things are all getting dirt cheap anymore.

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=19&l=en&s=dhs

Dell sells refurbs, as well, for even less.
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