Originally Posted by ChrisV
The 4 door Evo has a boy racer image, a crappy warranty if you ever try to use it as a performance car, has low quality build, and is not a comfortable cruiser. The GTO is all of those things, and is faster than any GTO ever made. it outperforms every PREVIOUS GTO in accelleration, top speed, handling, comfort, fuel mileage, emissions, and build quality.
The GTO at 3700 lbs weighs about what a late '60s musclecar did. But doesn't have to be stripped down, noisy, and rattly to do it.
It just shows how little you know of musclecars if you think a 13 second quarter mile is slow. it used to take a big block with suspension designed for straight line accelleration to do that. Now a supposedly low power small block is doing it in a car that handles much better.
BTW, a Holden IS a GM product. It isn't some separate comapny that GM is partnering with, so saying that it's interior doesn't have GM influence is silly. That said, Australia is the home for the modern musclecar. When GM and Ford had to quit making them in the US for insurance reasons, they kept making them in Australia. thay are as much musclecars as any domestic version running around the US in the '60s.
But way to be closed minded. Gotta love it whne supposed automotive enthuisiasts find reasons to put down cars specifically built for automotive enthusiasts.
Ok, let me get this through your head. Since when is a SPORTS CAR a MUSCLE CAR. IT isn't. The GTO is geared to be a sports car now. You could say a split between a pony car and sports car...but nonetheless it handles well given it's weight. A Muscle car doesnt handle well, is mid-sized and has a Big Block engine. The GTO can only fit one of those three - must bes to be a muscle car. The Viper is more of a muscle car than the GTO. The GTO is built on a sports car platform.
On the topic of the EVO...the EVO MR is a nicer version of the Evo...better interior and exterior updates (along with the added power to run high 12s). The Evo MR along with the STi can be placed in the same price bracket as the GTO. Both of those cars simply DOMINATE the GTO in every performance aspect. All while still being four doors, getting better gas mileage and having the ability to go off-road and actually be safe in bad weather conditions. Both are heavily based off their WRC rally counterparts (The STi more in suspension while the EVO more in engine). Those are racing inspired enthusist cars. Also, WHO THE HELL cares about warrenties on these cars? Do you know that probably 80% of the owners have already VOIDED the warrenty by modding it. Hell the EVO RS is going to almost all racing leagues (mainly SCCA). So to use they have a 'bad warrenty' is crap. No one cares if they came with a 3,000 mile warrenty or a 300,000 mile warrenty. Plus if anything, the GM by-product would need the longer warrenty. The GTO is what I like to call a 'lets see how many people we can trick' car. It brings back hardly any of the old GTO aspects other than probably weight. Which after 30-40 years you would think they could improve over the all steel and iron GTO but i guess not. I know a few old GTO owners and they wouldn't want a new GTO is given to them. They think it's a disgrace by GM to bring back the GTO name, and nothing really relevant about the old car. The GTO isn't a muscle car. GM claimed it itself that the GTO is a measure to pickup on lost sales with the Camaro SS and T/A. Since when were pony/sports cars, muscle cars?
I know Holden is a GM brand. The fact I was using is GM can't even make up their own platform to use for a new GTO. They could of used the old F-body platform for the kind of car they wanted to put-out. Instead they chose to use an Australian counter-part car and modify it's gas tank and call it a brand new GTO.
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