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Old 07-10-2005, 05:50 AM   #1
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Talon exhaust headers?

Im looking into getting a set of headers for my 1995 esi and am wondering if the stock heat shields will need to be put back on or not? Also i was wondering if any one has any tips to loosening those bolts on the stock system. I havent tried them yet but i dont want to break them off. thanx
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Old 07-10-2005, 05:55 AM   #2
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Aren't headers a bit more difficult and problematic when you have a turbocharged engine?
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:28 AM   #3
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ESI isn't Turbocharged
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Old 07-10-2005, 06:56 PM   #4
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I thought ESI was the fwd turbo, and TSI was awd turbo. I guess ya learn somethin new everyday
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Old 07-10-2005, 07:11 PM   #5
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I thought ESI was the fwd turbo, and TSI was awd turbo. I guess ya learn somethin new everyday
The ESI can be turbo or N/A, FWD, or AWD. The TSI is always going to be a AWD turbo car.

Look into DC Sports for your headers.
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Old 07-11-2005, 04:16 PM   #6
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The ESI can be turbo or N/A, FWD, or AWD. The TSI is always going to be a AWD turbo car.

Look into DC Sports for your headers.

Holy gobs of terrible information batman.

NO, an ESI is never turbocharged and always FWD. TSI only means turbocharged, you can have a FWD TSI or an AWD TSI. They typically say under the passenger rear taillights "TSI AWD" or just "TSI" (for the FWD version).

And... we are talking about a 4cyl car here... I can't let you say headerS (because there is only one header on a 4cyl motor).
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:51 AM   #7
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I thought ESI was the fwd turbo, and TSI was awd turbo. I guess ya learn somethin new everyday


Yup Bino be right. I have an ESI.
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:33 AM   #8
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If you plan on turboing it dont waste your money on headers.
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Old 07-12-2005, 03:55 PM   #9
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If you plan on turboing it dont waste your money on headers.

Especially since you'd have a spare...
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:23 AM   #10
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The stock exhaust manifold is good on the ESi, and if you do buy a new one, you dont need to put the heat sheild on if you dont want to, my brother took his heat sheild off his ESi.
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:32 AM   #11
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if u want to put a turbo on ur car i have one that will go right on it came off of my tsi that im try to sell
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Old 07-15-2005, 04:52 PM   #12
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if u want to put a turbo on ur car i have one that will go right on it came off of my tsi that im try to sell

By "go right on" you must mean custom exhaust manifold, pipe routing, custom exhaust, modified fuel delivery, and custom ECU programming.

Given that the TSI and the ESI have a completely different motor and all...
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Old 07-16-2005, 08:19 AM   #13
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sure if that is what u really want to think bc they r the same just that one has a turbo and one does not
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sure if that is what u really want to think bc they r the same just that one has a turbo and one does not

Oh such poorly educated people. No, they're NOT the same engine. The ESI uses a Dodge manufactured 420A motor, the TSI uses the Mitsubishi manufactured 4G63, the two motors have almost nothing in common. They are both DOHC and they are both 2.0L motors... that's it. There isn't a single part that I'm aware of that is interchangable between the two. The 420A is nearly identicle to the motor used in the Dodge Neon of the same era. The 4G63 is the same motor used in the Evolution Lancer...

Don't try to sound like you're all smart when you're really just guessing.
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Oh such poorly educated people. No, they're NOT the same engine. The ESI uses a Dodge manufactured 420A motor, the TSI uses the Mitsubishi manufactured 4G63, the two motors have almost nothing in common. They are both DOHC and they are both 2.0L motors... that's it. There isn't a single part that I'm aware of that is interchangable between the two. The 420A is nearly identicle to the motor used in the Dodge Neon of the same era. The 4G63 is the same motor used in the Evolution Lancer...

Don't try to sound like you're all smart when you're really just guessing.

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