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Old 03-10-2005, 02:57 AM   #1
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Question Why do european cars have their side mirrors on the fenders?

just like it said: Why do european cars have their side mirrors on the fenders? Like the Savannah RX-7, the old skylines, etc...?
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:05 AM   #2
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first of all, both of those are japanese cars... why though? i dont know, but it looks awesome
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:09 AM   #3
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opps...that was pretty ignorant of me...new question...why do older NON-American cars have their mirrors on their front fenders instead of right by the doors?
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:44 AM   #4
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Why not?
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Old 03-10-2005, 05:05 PM   #5
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I think it is interesting and I am try to figure out if there is a special reason for it....better visability or what.
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Old 03-10-2005, 06:03 PM   #6
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Here is one thread I found on the subject.

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While the size of the viewing area is mentioned in the thread above, one positive I could see about putting the mirror out on the fender would be the reduced size of the blind spot. With the mirror out further, you would be able to see more of what is just behind you (the driver) and out to the left. (US driving convention)

Another positive is that you do not have to turn your head to look out the side windows to check your mirrors. You could scan all your mirrors while keeping your gaze in the envelope of the windshield. More likely to see if somebody pulls out in front of you while checking a mirror.


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Old 03-11-2005, 01:05 AM   #7
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cool, thanks
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:53 PM   #8
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Ok, that thread didn't answer the question.

First off, fender mounted mirrors on factory cars for the most part are on Japanese cars, not European or American cars (though there were some vintage exceptions to that rule, as the '50s cars mentioned in that thread indicate, and a couple old british sports cars like Morgans).







On the Japanese cars, the mirrors were fender mounted due to governmental regulations stating that the rearview mirrors both had to be viewable through the front windshield INSIDE the swept area of the windshield wipers. This was for safety reasons. This regulation was in place from the '50s through 1982 on passenger cars, and much more recent on commercial vehicles. In 1982, Japanese cars started moving to A pillar mirrors in search of better aerodynamics for fuel economy reasons. It took another year for all the models to adopt the newer style.

Check out some of the changes here: http://db.tokyo-motorshow.com/cgi-bi...y/form_en.html
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:06 PM   #9
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Ok, that thread didn't answer the question.....

Good observation. Thanks for the additional information.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:32 PM   #10
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yes, thank you for enlightening us.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:10 PM   #11
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Why european...

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just like it said: Why do european cars have their side mirrors on the fenders? Like the Savannah RX-7, the old skylines, etc...?
My dear, that's japaneese cars
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Old 03-11-2005, 09:17 PM   #12
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as mentioned above(by me), I was an idiot when I wrote my original question...
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