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Old 02-25-2004, 08:42 AM   #16
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I thought saab was chevy owned? anyway, Volvo wont allow ford to alter there design, it wont happen.
I didn't know Volvo had a design lol j/k. I never knew Saab was owned by anybody else! Dont Renault own Volvo? If so I'd be more worried about them ruining the design
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Old 02-26-2004, 04:12 PM   #17
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I didn't know Volvo had a design lol j/k. I never knew Saab was owned by anybody else! Dont Renault own Volvo? If so I'd be more worried about them ruining the design


No,Ford owns Volvo now, and SAAB is owned by GMC.
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Old 02-28-2004, 10:07 AM   #18
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the Volvo car section is owned by ford but ford has no control over volvos design of there cars.
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Old 02-28-2004, 11:23 AM   #19
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Yup, in 1849 I believe, where would we be without the good 'ol Swedish cars lol. I'm not Volvo or Saab's greatest fan but you cant fault the safety of these cars...They were also and probably still are made of strengthend materials too, to withstand harsh weather conditions, okay if your the driver of one, not so okay if your in an accident with one though I guess lol!
Milestones in pre-automotive history. The seatbelt was invented in 1849. Must have been for the Swedish horse and buggy.
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Old 02-28-2004, 03:56 PM   #20
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Did you know the Volvo invented the seat belt???
Well uh, no and they don't either. I won't pretend to know exactly who, what, when or how the seatbelt was invented but... They were in use as early as the 1930's in the US. First installed by doctors who thought they would make driving safer.

However Volvo is credited, at least within their own literature, as having invented the 3-point safety belt. I think you could find more than a few people who would dispute that fact. Again I won't pretend to know for sure but I feel they're using a very narrow definition to make that claim.
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Old 02-28-2004, 04:34 PM   #21
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According to the movie, Tucker was the first to implement seatbelts in the American market.
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According to the movie, Tucker was the first to implement seatbelts in the American market.
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Agreed. I was simply using their word which was "invented".
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Old 02-28-2004, 04:41 PM   #23
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Agreed. I was simply using their word which was "invented".

I was just throwing out some of my vast knowledge.
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Old 03-01-2004, 12:44 PM   #24
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http://inventors.about.com/library/i...seat_belts.htm
Volvo had the first safety belts in 1849. The first U.S. patent for automobile seat beats was issued to Edward J. Claghorn of New York, New York on February 10, 1885. Claghorn was granted United States Patent #312,085 for a Safety-Belt for tourists, described in the patent as "designed to be applied to the person, and provided with hooks and other attachments for securing the person to a fixed object."

Swedish inventor, Nils Bohlin invented the three-point seat belt - not the first but the modern seatbelt - now a standard safety device in most cars. Nils Bohlin's lap-and-shoulder belt was introduced by Volvo in 1959.

2-Point Seat Belt: A restraint system with two attachment points. A lap belt.

3-Point Seat Belt: A seat belt with both a lap and a shoulder portion, having three attachment points (one shoulder, two hips).

Lap Belt: A seat belt anchored at two points, for use across the occupant's thighs/hips.

Lap/Shoulder Belt: A seat belt that is anchored at three points and restrains the occupant at the hips and across the shoulder; also called a “combination belt”.
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Volvo had the first safety belts in 1849. The first U.S. patent for automobile seat beats was issued to Edward J. Claghorn of New York, New York on February 10, 1885. Claghorn was granted United States Patent #312,085 for a Safety-Belt for tourists, described in the patent as "designed to be applied to the person, and provided with hooks and other attachments for securing the person to a fixed object."

Swedish inventor, Nils Bohlin invented the three-point seat belt - not the first but the modern seatbelt - now a standard safety device in most cars. Nils Bohlin's lap-and-shoulder belt was introduced by Volvo in 1959.

2-Point Seat Belt: A restraint system with two attachment points. A lap belt.

3-Point Seat Belt: A seat belt with both a lap and a shoulder portion, having three attachment points (one shoulder, two hips).

Lap Belt: A seat belt anchored at two points, for use across the occupant's thighs/hips.

Lap/Shoulder Belt: A seat belt that is anchored at three points and restrains the occupant at the hips and across the shoulder; also called a “combination belt”.
Okay, you got me. Or perhaps more correctly you've proven what I've said time and time again. Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it true. Let's apply just a teeny tiny amount of critical thinking to this subject, shall we?

According to your source, Volvo invented the seatbelt in 1849, which as I said earlier is pre-automotive history. Here's the problem. The founders of Volvo, Assar Gabrielsson and Gustaf Larson weren't even born until the 1890's. Furthermore they didn't get together and start their company until 1924. So please explain to me how the company invented ANYTHING 75 years before it was founded. Okey, dokey?
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Woah buddy remove the broom and calm down i mearly Copy posted One source. I never said you where wrong or argued about it.
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Woah buddy remove the broom and calm down i mearly Copy posted One source. I never said you where wrong or argued about it.
Don't recall saying you did. On the other hand if you're going to cite an example, it might be a good idea to read it first.
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Old 03-16-2004, 02:52 AM   #28
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Saabs are good but they are no longer independent. Volvos are tanks on weels but i'm here to tell you bout the Sweeds supercar SLAYER! The Koenigsegg CC8S and CCR.
heres the specs.
Koenigsegg.com Vehical Specs.
Of course Scince it's made by sweeds it's safe! it's the origanl Enzo.
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the origanl? is that some form of origami?

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the origanl? is that some form of origami?

ha yah right.
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