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Old 05-02-2005, 06:33 PM   #16
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:30 PM   #17
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And why exactly would I type information that is aleready there?
The participants to this forum are asking for information not for links you idiots!

The purpose of any forum is to put together information relevant to a certain subject and create a debate among the participants.

First of all you don't know how to spell plagiarize. Second you don't know what "Plagerize" means. You would call "Plagerize" if I woul have claimed it was written or conceived by me, which I never did.

How many times did you pass an information without citing the origin? How many times didn't you tell a joke without mentioning the source? Many times. Why? Because at the time, the information or joke itself was relevant, was more pertinent than the source.

If the question on the forum would be "does any one know any link to... .. ", then yes, you post the link... .. but if someone asks about a specific information in the forum, then you have to bring that info into the forum regardless where and when you got it.

Get it?

Bottom line, if you are such a smart ass, why didn't you post the whatever link or information relevant to the question befor I did?!?

Bottom line... ... quit being a punk, stop busting my balls and start learning how to drive!

1. I am a far better driver than you are.
2. I am not a punk, far from it
3. I am busting your balls.

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The only problem is that I do not know which one of my instructors told me that. I have bunch of notes from my racing courses but I've never wrote down the name of the instructor.


You lied...Sorry. You're plagiarizing crap and taking it as your own. You need to cite the source regardless to the situation. You givce credit where it's due. Sorry, but you're going on the offensive to try and validate yourself.

BTW = I mis-spelled plagiarize. So what? You know that I meant.
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:27 AM   #18
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[quote=Godlaus]1. I am a far better driver than you are.
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You are a better driver than me?

How many hours of tactical courses did you attended so far?
How many competitions were you participating?

Theory, "Grand Theft Auto", Microsoft driving console and blah, blah is one thing... .. driving... .. well.. .. there is a different story.

You know how many talkers like you I have under my belt?!? Loads. You think you can drive? Show us what you can and I will then show for it.

By the way, keep your driver licence in a dry place until the ink will dry completely, than talk about driving.
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:33 AM   #19
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why do car people always talk and say HORSEPower? Isnt torque is what is faster and get you down the track?? Why do everybody say horsepower? Why is it so important than torque? I never get this
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:50 PM   #20
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[quote=TheSpecialist][quote=Godlaus]1. I am a far better driver than you are.
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You are a better driver than me?

How many hours of tactical courses did you attended so far?
How many competitions were you participating?


Lez see...I hold the junior record at the local track. How's that for starters? In my history, the statements boasting about your driving ability are usually wrong.

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why do car people always talk and say HORSEPower? Isnt torque is what is faster and get you down the track?? Why do everybody say horsepower? Why is it so important than torque? I never get this

In a RWD car, torque at the rear wheels is all that matters. If there was no such thing as a gearbox in a car, then there would be no HP. But because of the gearbox, there are RPMs and torque involved, so you get HP.
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Old 05-03-2005, 04:38 PM   #21
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If there was no such thing as a gearbox in a car, then there would be no HP. But because of the gearbox, there are RPMs and torque involved, so you get HP.
Wrong answer.
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:35 PM   #22
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Wrong answer.

I don't want to get all technical and bring in the work vs force argument.

Torque at the wheels is the only thing that matters. How fast that torque is rotating the wheels is another thing.

Perhaps you could tell us all your idea of torque and horsepower?
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:29 PM   #23
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Torque at the wheels is the only thing that matters. How fast that torque is rotating the wheels is another thing.

The thing on the thing with the thing. Are you sure you didn't copy and paste this from somewhere?!?!/ You either explain or shut the fu*k up, read and learn.






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is there a certin formula to figure out how fast a car can go, like to compare two cars, where you could plug in specs of a car?

Torque is the same as power.
"Engine torque" does not mean too much. What matters is the torque directed to the tires, including the aspects/effects of the transmission.
We all know, except "GodLaus", that car does not accelerate as steep in second/third gear at peak torque RPM as it does in first gear. Hence would be safe to say that transmission multiplies the incomming torque from the engine by a factor equal to the gear ratio. Hence, determining how much the car is accelerating at a given moment, you have to take in consideration both the torque output of the engine and the gear ratio.

Finding out the power (HP) you need to know the torque. This is expressed in this ecuation: Power (hp) = Torque (ft-lb) * RPM / 5252

When we shift we maximize engine POWER (hp), not engine torque!

We can see that "Torque" and "Power" are on the same coin, only on the opposite sides.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:45 PM   #24
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most of the people i hear from take the actual horsepower of their car (as listed on a manufacturers website) multiply it by 2, then add about 20 horse power for whatever mod they put on (whether it be an air cleaner, spoiler, or k and n oil filter).

so my ford escort would be (105 * 2 + nothing) = 210 horsepower.
Does that mean my dad's cadillac has: 300hp * 2 + nothing = 600 horsepower!!! SWEET! hehehe
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:52 PM   #25
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Lez see...I hold the junior record at the local track.


I thought you said in one of you previous posts "I am not a punk".. ..

P.S. Tell me when you want me to stop.
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Old 05-04-2005, 02:07 AM   #26
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I don't want to get all technical and bring in the work vs force argument.

Torque at the wheels is the only thing that matters. How fast that torque is rotating the wheels is another thing.

Perhaps you could tell us all your idea of torque and horsepower?
Come on now... without any explanations at all I know you know that the statement you said is untrue. "If there was no such thing as a gearbox in a car, then there would be no HP. But because of the gearbox, there are RPMs and torque involved, so you get HP."


http://www.web-cars.com/math/horsepower.html

^ I didn't read that, but I'm sure it'll do.

I just want to say this... people often talk about which is important, horsepower or torque. Believe me when I say they both are.
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Old 05-04-2005, 02:18 AM   #27
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How many times have we had this argument?!?
go and find some of the other threads that talk about this, and read all of them before trying to say something else here.
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Old 05-04-2005, 03:40 AM   #28
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The thing on the thing with the thing. Are you sure you didn't copy and paste this from somewhere?!?!/ You either explain or shut the fu*k up, read and learn.

Oh, time to rip the specialist a new one. Go ahead and tell me if I copied and pasted that from somewhere. Did I? Nope.....

You're repeating what I said. Torque at the rear wheel is the only thing that matters. But, with more torque, you get a trade off on wheel RPMs, which is why there is gearing. Lower the wheel torque, increase the RPMs. Can I make this clearer for you?

At the flywheel, Horsepower is the only thing that matters. At the wheels, torque is the only thing that matters.
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I thought you said in one of you previous posts "I am not a punk".. ..

I am not. Since when is stating a fact of me being a good race driver dictate me as a punk? What world are you living in?

Keep em coming, by the way, you're digging yourself a immensly deep hole.

Oh yeah, and let's limit our little flame war to the LS1 police thread, so we don't have to correlate our responses
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Thanks for the link, dodge, and I'm sorry to say that I'm about to get involved in a flame war, one which I will not lose, so, I guess I'm just sorry that I'm getting involved in something you were trying to change.
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:25 PM   #29
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Thanks for the link, dodge, and I'm sorry to say that I'm about to get involved in a flame war, one which I will not lose, so, I guess I'm just sorry that I'm getting involved in something you were trying to change.
You don't have to flame anyone... Just call the facts as they are and leave off the personal attacks. Nothing wrong with a good (rational) debate.
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You don't have to flame anyone... Just call the facts as they are and leave off the personal attacks. Nothing wrong with a good (rational) debate.

K, I'll try me best to call the facts and leave out the personal attacks.
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