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Old 07-24-2005, 05:45 PM   #1
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Air Filters

Do They Really Increase Performance
Like The Fram Air Hogs
And The K&n Performance
If Yes Then By How Much As Far As Percentage Or Numbers Go
I See Them As A Cheap Way To Increase Power
Am I Right
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:50 PM   #2
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They show more performance at a higher rpm because the engine is getting more air out of them compared to stock paper filters. It raises like 5 hp and if you get cold air intake you will get 20 hp
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:28 PM   #3
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They show more performance at a higher rpm because the engine is getting more air out of them compared to stock paper filters. It raises like 5 hp and if you get cold air intake you will get 10 hp

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Old 07-24-2005, 06:44 PM   #4
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Old 07-24-2005, 08:10 PM   #5
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Well, if your grandma sally, your not gonna need that extra 5hp up top from a k&n....But if you rip out your cup holders because they weigh too much, then definitly invest in a better filter, or better yet, an entire cold air intake.
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:24 PM   #6
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Well, if your grandma sally, your not gonna need that extra 5hp up top from a k&n....But if you rip out your cup holders because they weigh too much, then definitly invest in a better filter, or better yet, an entire cold air intake.

i can relate to doin' shit like that, i've ripped power everything out of my car, if you wanna put the window down you've gotta take the trimming off the door and use a wrench to move the window down now, i ripped out most of my electronical crap that i didn't want or need and i tore out my arm rest console where the stick is, lol! i went mental, took out everything but the front seats, ripped out all of my boot lining and back seat, almost all of my interior, i even took off the protective fabric cover on my dash cause it weighs like 2lbs, i'm a freak like that

at the moment a mate and i are stripping his KE70 corolla and gettin' it ready for a 4A-GZE, should be a nice car
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Ha, yeah, I did the same thing:
http://www.car-forums.com/talk/showthread.php?t=5040

just read what I did to my old car.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:14 AM   #8
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They show more performance at a higher rpm because the engine is getting more air out of them compared to stock paper filters. It raises like 5 hp and if you get cold air intake you will get 20 hp
K&Ns will get up to 10hp with just the filter. I put one in my F-350 the other day and then ran it on my buddies dyno.
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:04 AM   #9
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You dumb **** they are tested and proven to raise the horsepower at least that much
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Old 07-25-2005, 03:03 AM   #10
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K&Ns will get up to 10hp with just the filter. I put one in my F-350 the other day and then ran it on my buddies dyno.
Well yes but isn't the gain more if the displacement is more. The same filter on a V8 ( or V10 I'm not sure which you have ) will gain more horsepower than the same filter on a 4 cyl.
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Yeah, you're right.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:56 PM   #12
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You dumb **** they are tested and proven to raise the horsepower at least that much

20hp cannot be gained from air filters especially in modern engines.

From www.pumaracing.co.uk/gentune.htm
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Throw the box away and fit a K&N and a good few bhp was easily found. On modern fuel injection engines the induction systems are much better designed because the manufacturers can't afford to waste any available power. In my experience the filters themselves, which are usually flat square items, cause no restriction at all as long as they are new and clean. Replacing them with a "high performance" filter does absolutely nothing for power output. There is sometimes a bit of power to be found by enlarging the inlet tube in the bottom of the filter box or drilling a couple of extra 1" holes in the box. It's usually only a couple of percent at most though and hardly enough to even be felt in terms of extra performance.
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20hp cannot be gained from air filters especially in modern engines.

From www.pumaracing.co.uk/gentune.htm

I was talking about the cold air intake, it does it at a high rpm when the engine needs air and it makes it cold. Cool air=better performance
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:15 PM   #14
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But not to that extent. You gain 1hp for every 3 degrees you cool down at the intake. You've done well if you gain 8hp.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:28 PM   #15
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you can get 20 hp from an intake if your car is factory boosted
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