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Old 08-11-2005, 11:45 PM   #46
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If you don't have a rattle gun, try using a speed brace.

I dont have all that fancy things Wally, just the basics tools. But Wally, can you give me some tips on taking off stuff and putting it back together.
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:47 PM   #47
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and no use metric wrenches for metric nuts/bolts. and visa versa. cause while the sizes are prety similar they arent quite the same. and if its tightened alot the metric wrench on the standard bolt will tend to strip it and visa versa
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What is the rule of taking and putting things back on.
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:56 PM   #49
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I dont have all that fancy things Wally, just the basics tools. But Wally, can you give me some tips on taking off stuff and putting it back together.

yeah you turn aintclockwise to loosen and clockwise to tighten, unless it's a nut on a turbocharger turbine.

Go out and get a good socket set like Minimax or Sidchrome/Proto. They are affordable and will not break.

Wouldn't be too concerned about controlled detensioning of nuts and bolts. You aren't working on a space shuttle and you won't be able to do it anyway.

When installing, to avoid hoop and other stressing, you generally start from the centre and work out diagonally, starting with mild tension and staging up to full tension. Manufacturers spend a lot of money producing workshop manuals, so use them.
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:58 PM   #50
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alright the basic rules

1. keep a clean an organized tool box. in the long run you save tons of time not get frustrated looking for the right tool.

2. when you take things apart label where the bolts and other miscelanous parts came from so its easier to put back together when the time comes.

other than that just grab a wrench and start taking things apart. but take pictures or write down the steps as your going along so you dont forget when it comes to re assemble. also if your doing something where there 2. one on each side of the car. only do 1 at a time so youll have the other still assembled to look at and help with re assembly
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:58 PM   #51
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alright the basic rules

1. keep a clean an organized tool box. in the long run you save tons of time not get frustrated looking for the right tool.

2. when you take things apart label where the bolts and other miscelanous parts came from so its easier to put back together when the time comes.

3. Always buy Craftsman tools
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Old 08-12-2005, 12:00 AM   #52
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yeah you turn aintclockwise to loosen and clockwise to tighten, unless it's a nut on a turbocharger turbine.

Go out and get a good socket set like Minimax or Sidchrome/Proto. They are affordable and will not break.

Wouldn't be too concerned about controlled detensioning of nuts and bolts. You aren't working on a space shuttle and you won't be able to do it anyway.

When installing, to avoid hoop and other stressing, you generally start from the centre and work out diagonally, starting with mild tension and staging up to full tension. Manufacturers spend a lot of money producing workshop manuals, so use them.

lefty loosey, righty tighty was always easier to remember
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Old 08-12-2005, 12:01 AM   #53
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lefty loosey, righty tighty was always easier to remember
But theres some instances when its the opposite.
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But theres some instances when its the opposite.

Like on the old Alfas and Fiats
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Like on the old Alfas and Fiats

same with the way wally said it. i just said it easier. clockwise and counter clockwise confuses me. there are always exceptions. but lefty loosey righty tighty is the most common except where opposite directional bolts are needed. like wally said "like on the turbo turbine"
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yeah you turn aintclockwise to loosen and clockwise to tighten, unless it's a nut on a turbocharger turbine.

Go out and get a good socket set like Minimax or Sidchrome/Proto. They are affordable and will not break.

Wouldn't be too concerned about controlled detensioning of nuts and bolts. You aren't working on a space shuttle and you won't be able to do it anyway.

When installing, to avoid hoop and other stressing, you generally start from the centre and work out diagonally, starting with mild tension and staging up to full tension. Manufacturers spend a lot of money producing workshop manuals, so use them.

Ok WALLy, so its good to loosen and tightning things in stages, and not just tightning it all the way then go to the next one.

For example wally, when you take off the lug nuts for the wheel, do you loosen them all the way and take it out or do you loosing it say 360 degrees and go to the next one. RULES LIKE THAt, not like couterclockwise and clockwise.
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Ok WALLy, so its good to loosen and tightning things in stages, and not just tightning it all the way then go to the next one.

For example wally, when you take off the lug nuts for the wheel, do you loosen them all the way and take it out or do you loosing it say 360 degrees and go to the next one. RULES LIKE THAt, not like couterclockwise and clockwise.

well tires are different. you break them on the ground while the wheels are on the ground. then you jack up the car and take the lug nuts off. so like you said. if you break them on the ground and do a full turn loose on the lugs. then jack it up and then take the lugs off.
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well tires are different. you break them on the ground while the wheels are on the ground. then you jack up the car and take the lug nuts off. so like you said. if you break them on the ground and do a full turn loose on the lugs. then jack it up and then take the lugs off.

Okay, and it doesnt matter which order you take break/lossen the lug nuts off right, but it does when you are torquing them? And can I just put the wheel back on, take the 1st nut and torque it all the way, and then take the next one diaganall from it and torque it all the way so when im at the last one im done? Or do I have to do it in stages?
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You put them on at first maybe hand tight, or if using the tire iron then dont put too much effort into it, then after all 5 are semi-tight you set the torque wrech to the correct specs and then tighten them (with car on the ground) to the right torque (diagonal pattern).
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Okay, and it doesnt matter which order you take break/lossen the lug nuts off right, but it does when you are torquing them? And can I just put the wheel back on, take the 1st nut and torque it all the way, and then take the next one diaganall from it and torque it all the way so when im at the last one im done? Or do I have to do it in stages?

when taking them off or breaking them it doesnt matter too much on the order. but when it comes to torquing go in sequence and do it in stages. like first go around in sequence and torque down like 1/4 of its torque specs. then go around and torque it again in sequence this time at half torque. then the final pass you torque them to full specs.
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