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Old 08-05-2005, 07:10 PM   #16
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There are, as you guys said, asses on every forum. Just rise above it. If someone says something completely based in a non-existent world, ignore it. That's all you can do. Don't even give heed to their words if the extent of their post is "----- is gay. I hate those" or "--- sucks..." with no logic to back it up.

Everyone understands your frustration, but maybe that's all the people that frustrate you are trying to do, frustrate you. So don't just and move on.
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:11 PM   #17
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Can you see how valuable you are to this forum Chris? Theres people here that dont want you to leave or 'be enlightened' by retards who think they know it all. Most people here like the original ChrisV, not the newly 'enlightened' ChrisV.
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:46 PM   #18
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importluver, youre right, too. When it comes to cars, rotaries were built by the hand of God, himself, and anyone who changes one out for an inferior piston engine is a heathen and should be shot. Just because it costs less to go faster and still work better in the chassis is no excuse for destroying utterly the work of the Lord.

I will say this only once. Nearly everything you typed in the above quote is coming from your perception of what i said. Never have i spoken about god or religion (i don't like how you give God a gender), never did i comment on rotaries vs pistons, never did i say anyone should be shot. Perhaps you are making too many assumptions? You figure it out.

Without arguing there is little purpose for this website, as you well know. The choice is yours, do as you wish.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:03 PM   #19
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I will say this only once. Nearly everything you typed in the above quote is coming from your perception of what i said. Never have i spoken about god or religion (i don't like how you give God a gender), never did i comment on rotaries vs pistons, never did i say anyone should be shot. Perhaps you are making too many assumptions? You figure it out.

Without arguing there is little purpose for this website, as you well know. The choice is yours, do as you wish.

It's all cool. It's your opinion, man. And you and Oomba can insult my cars all you want, too, as your opinions as valid as anyones (I mean, wouldn't want any actual thought to intrude on an opinion). It was completely stupid of me to have replaced my dead rotary with a V8, 'cause, even though I'd built and raced many, many rotary powered cars, I must not be capable of working on that God given engine. And what a tool I was for putting a built AOD automatic in it. I had no control and it was no fun to drive. I've been laboring under the false impression that I've actually been learning things all these years.

And I'm so sorry to have offended you by inadvertantly giving God a gender. And I must have offended some by anthropomorphisising and talking about God's "hand" when God has no use for such human appendages. I was only referring to your idolizing the rotary so much that any change is heresy, because that engine is perfect in every way, and any car that originally came with one is totally and utterly ruined by swapping it out with some inferior piston powerplant. Your opinion on my V8 swap is completely the way it should be.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:30 PM   #20
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And you and Oomba can insult my cars all you want, too, as your opinions as valid as anyones (I mean, wouldn't want any actual thought to intrude on an opinion). It was completely stupid of me to have replaced my dead rotary with a V8, 'cause, even though I'd built and raced many, many rotary powered cars, I must not be capable of working on that God given engine. I've been laboring under the false impression that I've actually been learning things all these years.

Chris, get a hold of yourself. I don't think anyone on this board doubts your accomplishments or experience. You are also misrepresenting my words.

I never said your cars are stupid. You are assuming what i am thinking and going on and on. Consider that i am new to the rotary scene, i know nothing of rotaries, yet the wankel rotary is a radical departure from traditional rods and pistons. I wish to explore this new phenomenon. I have considered your advice, that a v8 is a very good alternative should i ultimately fail to achieve what i want with the 13b.

The bottom line is that you've gone a route that i would like to avoid. Thats not to say what you have done is useless, shameful, or nasty. I appreciate what you have done, but i respectfully disagree. End of story.

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I was only referring to your idolizing the rotary so much that any change is heresy, because that engine is perfect in every way, and any car that originally came with one is totally and utterly ruined by swapping it out with some inferior piston powerplant. Your opinion on my V8 swap is completely the way it should be.

My opinion on your v8 swap does not take away from the fact that you've done it successfully and it satisfies you. I do not agree with your method but that doesn't mean i don't respect your thoughts, abilities, or accomplishments. And here i would like to apologize for insulting you and your car.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:50 PM   #21
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that was polite
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:51 PM   #22
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import should get a brownie button
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:54 PM   #23
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My opinion on your v8 swap does not take away from the fact that you've done it successfully and it satisfies you. I do not agree with your method but that doesn't mean i don't respect your thoughts, abilities, or accomplishments. And here i would like to apologize for insulting you and your car.

No, no. The reasons you use to say you don't agree with me were valid. And since those reasons area valid, mine were not, as two opposing viewoints cannot be right. if it's wrong for you, and you can't understand why anyone would do it, then it's wrong for anyone, including the dozens of people I've helped perform the swap and the hundreds that were inspired by mne to do the swap.


Same for the argumet about the automtic transmission. I was laboring under teh false impression that I was actually in control of my various autoamtic cars and that cars liek my RX7 were in any wqay, shape or form as much fun as the least manual transmission car. I'm literally shocked that I'm not dead yet from not being in control of that RX7, or my Jaguars, or my big block Mustang and Torino, or my big block Chevelle, or any other automatic perforamance car I've ever had. And I can't believe I missed how utterly BORING they were to drive. Your opinion is SO much clearrer on that than my own experience.

Please, do not be offended. I only mean to apologize for doubting your opinion, and actaully thinking my experience had any merit. No more arguing. I have seen the light.
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:02 PM   #24
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automatic can be just as fun. and performance isnt an issue. most drag cars used to use powerglides and other manual trannys
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:06 PM   #25
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automatic can be just as fun. and performance isnt an issue. most drag cars used to use powerglides and other manual trannys

I might have said that before (and have, actually) but it contradicts others opinions, so it's bad to go there.
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:07 PM   #26
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I might have said that before (and have, actually) but it contradicts others opinions, so it's bad to go there.

im sure you have said it. cause theres no doubt in my mind that you know your shit. so dont worry if other people cant handle a variated opinion based on fact and not bs
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:22 PM   #27
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I'm going to just work on my own cars myself, and keep in mind that my car, like anything Chip Foose has done, is in fact stupid (thanks, Oomba, for opening my eyes to the fact that the gratest names in the automotive world are stupid ricers). And in the boards, I will make sure that the most unfounded and ignorant opinions are championed, as that's the goal of the modern automotive enthusiast.

That's very selfish of you Chris, who am I going to argue with?

Took you long enough though, I realised ten posts into membership there was no place for facts to get in the way of a good story.

It's a rite of passage though and evolves something like this:

primary school:- "My Dad has the bestest car ever"
secondary school:- "My Dad's an arsehole coz he won't buy that car with lottsa bling"
post school:- "My car is beastie and has lots of stickers and is a freak; much more faster than others from the production line. My idiot Dad thinks he knows about modern engines, but Fastest Fours knows much more and recommends lottsa billet everything rather than forged like my Dad uses in his handbuilt POS 650kW 3.8litre"
early professional:- "Sure my 2.4 litre 110kW, 180 Nm is all european, but it is better than your POS and costs more"
professional:- "I love to tinker with my car just ask my mechanic and my tuner."
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:23 PM   #28
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I don't know why I even give a sh*t about making sure people actually know anything. Maybe I'm just looking for people worthy of respect.

But I concede the point. Forming and holding tightly to closed up opinions that are based on little or no knowledge and experience, is so much more a valuable goal than anything else an automotive enthusiast can aspire to. In fact, the best goal would be to learn and experience the least, but form and hold tight to as many opinions as you can invent.

I won't bother trying to change anyone's mind, or give the benfit of decades of experience, as your opinions are so much more valuable than any actual knowledge might be.

Sorry to waste your valuable time with anything approaching facts.

Oombah, youre right. Changing a car that the gods originally made in any way shape or form other than to make it faster (especially if you can't use any of that speed on the street) is stupid. And making a car faster is only worthwhile if it's already too fast to start with. Art, artistic expresssion, and kinetic sculpture is pointless. Youre lack of creativity and artistic ability, and hatreed of anyone who shows an aptitude for it as it relates to cars is indeed the way of the light.

importluver, youre right, too. When it comes to cars, rotaries were built by the hand of God, himself, and anyone who changes one out for an inferior piston engine is a heathen and should be shot. Just because it costs less to go faster and still work better in the chassis is no excuse for destroying utterly the work of the Lord.

I will strive to follow your shining examples from here on out. And if I happen to give any advice based at all on factual information or real experience, remind me to stop, so I won't offend anyone's tightly held, but unsubstantiated, opinions. Because those are the most bestest things anyone can have.


i only read the first paragraph of your post.

but i just had a few words to say. as far as me having arguments with you and the name callings in the past.

i always looked at you as the "Mr. KNOW IT ALL". you know everything about automotives and you are always right. i yern for the day where you will post something wrong. but i always had mad respect for you.

you would be someone good to look up to if i was just as interested in automotives as you are.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:27 PM   #29
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My problem is I missed out on all those steps. I had to actually learn at an early age, so I have no abilioty to just form quick opinions of hatred for everything that isn't my favorite.

I'll cheerily listen to what you're doing with your Falcon, and ask questions about what's going on in Oz. You can play with the others, but I'm going to work hard to continue to remember that even if they don't actually know anything, they are right no matter how much they insult something that isn't their favorite.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:31 PM   #30
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While you were out playing on your swing dreaming of being know it all I was probably repairing a Case header or International tractor in my early teens, realising I was a know it all.
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