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View Poll Results: What do ya'll think about Chris now?
Want the old one back 5 27.78%
Like the new one better(god forbid) 2 11.11%
Ban Oomba and get good ol' Chris back 11 61.11%
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:13 PM   #1
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What do ya'll think about Chris now?

I want the old one back
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:16 PM   #2
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Damn right, i like the original Chris and not this newly so-called 'enlightened' Chris. Without Chris this forum will go even more to shit and we'll have all these running the place.
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:18 PM   #3
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Damn right, i like the original Chris and not this newly so-called 'enlightened' Chris. Without Chris this forum will go even more to shit and we'll have all these running the place.
Indeed.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:01 PM   #4
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I miss ChrisV's smackdowns...
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:04 PM   #5
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No, don't ban anyone. And I already posted a thread for my reasons. No need to start new ones or call extra attention to it. That could offend people, and we don't want that.
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:27 PM   #6
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Whatever gets Chris back is what I want. Hell, he is the one that got me to actually accept US cars again (sorta...).
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:54 PM   #7
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This forum has gone gay. "What" has been banned, ChrisV is soft, and most importantly, "What" has been banned.
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:56 PM   #8
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And you really shouldn't have been banned IMO
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:57 PM   #9
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chris scares me now. it makes me want to stay away from clock towers and water towers (basicly any tower) especialy the one where hes got his riffle set up
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:59 PM   #10
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Godammit Chris...COME BACK!!
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:10 PM   #11
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Why? What good does it really do anybody? All I apparently ever did was piss off people who simply wanted to express their opinions.

I mean everyone complained about things turning into flame wars, and a large part of that was me telling someone with an unsubstantiated opinion that they were wrong. Facts are just opinions. So why bother countering opinions with facts? It just makes everyone upset. And I don't need the stress.

Look at Hobo. He left instead of deal with the stress of combatting unsubstantiated opinions. And when people with insulting, uninformed opinions and no experience get banned, they just come back and say the same things with a new name! That's how important holding tight to unsupported opinion is!
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:22 PM   #12
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Damn it man...do you realize you are letting a handful of people, and certainly a minority, dictate what you do on these forums? Giving in to them is not going to change them, nor is it going to improve anyone's experience here. I'm sure most of us agree that the new Chris is annoying...the old Chris was wise, and like a damn rock that would never back down...this Chris is whiny, submissive, and cowardly...

F*ck the bastards that say you don't know what you are talking about dammit. Don't let them change who you are.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:37 PM   #13
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Can the choices on the poll be expanded to include:

" Same suit, same sandshoes" ?
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:43 PM   #14
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Can the choices on the poll be expanded to include:

" Same suit, same sandshoes" ?
Wally, if i may ask, what does that line mean? ("Same suit, same sandshoes" ?)
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:45 PM   #15
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Cowardly is not facing facts. And the facts are minority are what end up causing all the stress here. Seriously EVERYTHING devolves into a flame war becaeu these guys can't even be banned permanently (and if you did, it's being banned for opinions, which just makes the person banning them look like a dick)

Where's Talonchik? Even importluva argued with me about experience. It's not just a handful, it's the new thing. Ask talon, opinions are more important than anything, and telling someone they are wrong is "mean" and makes people like her leave, and makes people of all types say "man, you're being a dick. It's just an opinion."

So no more contradicting opinions, even if they miss the boat entirely, or are being insulting. That just leads to forum meltdown. it'l be hard to do, but it seems necessary. And I have yet to see one real compelling reason that anyone here should care if *I* have anything to say about an opinion. I'm just a single person, of no more value or with revering any more than anyone else. My 27+ years of car building and racing experience and 30+ years of automotive study is meaningless to anyone but myself. As are the years of experience and study in other fields.

Am I sad about it? Yeah. But it's so much easier to just say, "you're right," since they are going to think so no matter what facts are brought to the table. And if they get to the point where the flames are bad enough they get banned, they come back and do it again anyway. Adam doesn't care (and it turns out, many forum admins don't) so why should I? You guys know enough and you know how to find what you don't.
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