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Old 02-29-2004, 03:24 AM   #1
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Best car overall

Sorry if this has been asked before.

Ive read in many places that the Skyline R34 is the best car in terms of speed, seating 4 comfortably, practicality (trunk space, fuel economy), tunability, and looks. Any affordable (less than 100k USD) car that can fit above criteria. Or am i just plain wrong?
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Old 02-29-2004, 04:27 AM   #2
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while the R34 is a pretty darn sweet car, i think id rather have an R33... i like the way they look a little bit better (slightly). but at the same time, i think that skylines are a little to expencive for what you get. in america, you can buy an R34 for about 40-50 grand (depending on where) and the RB26dett (L6 2.6 Liter twin turbo) is pushing about 280 HP... now, if you take the evoVIII, it costs around 30-35 grand and with the 4G63 (L4 2.0 liter single turbo) is also pushing 280 ponies. now taking in the fact that the evo is a lot lighter, id say that (in my opinion) the evo is better than the R34. but all together, id have to chose both the evo and the FD (RX7), cuz the FD is using the 13B (654x2 cc rotary engine single turbo) pusing about 280 ponies as well, so egh, its hard to decide, but id call it a tie between the EVO and the FD
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Old 02-29-2004, 04:48 AM   #3
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i was planning on doing that, i cant believe i forgot *brainfart*
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Old 02-29-2004, 05:04 AM   #5
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but isnt the RB26dett not at full potential because of restrictions in japan. what would you have to do to get it to 350-400 hp?

regarding the wrx, i have a friend whos always boasting about an sti killing a vsepc, i wanna prove him wrong someday.
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Old 02-29-2004, 05:17 AM   #6
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Nevermind, found that the skyline has 320hp. shoot, itll kill the sti.
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Well, there is the Nissan Sentra but I'm not too sure about the EPA, Performance add ons and what not. I think the Sentra has a good shot.
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Originally Posted by importluva
Sorry if this has been asked before.

Ive read in many places that the Skyline R34 is the best car in terms of speed, seating 4 comfortably, practicality (trunk space, fuel economy), tunability, and looks. Any affordable (less than 100k USD) car that can fit above criteria. Or am i just plain wrong?


Best Car? It is an amazing automobile, for sure. But a nearly new R34 from www.motorex.com is well over 100k (like 110-115) for that price you can get a 911 turbo and it would eat a Skyline in all categories. The Skyline also doesn't really seat 4 well and neither does the 911. Whe you are paying this much for an exotic sports car, the back seats are usually and afterthought. And yes, the Skyline has huge HP restrictions on it from the factory, it is very easy to unlock that TT6's potential. However, you say that it would smoke and STi...well and STi has 300/300 to the crank from the factory. If you made the STi cost as much as the Skyline I am more than sure it would kill the Skyline. The EVO is an awesome car as well, it only costs around 28k USD, though.

You were asking what is the best car...you can't ask such a broad question like that. Are we talking 4,6,8 or 12 cyls...are we talking FWD,RWD or AWD? Are we talking 2 dr, 3 dr 4 dr or 5 dr? We talking Turbo, TT, Supercharged or NA?

Do you see where I am going with this? Example: What is the best AWD, 4 dr., 4 cyl Turbo'd car? The Subaru WRX STi.

But then again this is all just opinion as well...
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Old 02-29-2004, 01:41 PM   #9
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You were asking what is the best car...you can't ask such a broad question like that. Are we talking 4,6,8 or 12 cyls...are we talking FWD,RWD or AWD? Are we talking 2 dr, 3 dr 4 dr or 5 dr? We talking Turbo, TT, Supercharged or NA?

Do you see where I am going with this? Example: What is the best AWD, 4 dr., 4 cyl Turbo'd car? The Subaru WRX STi.

But then again this is all just opinion as well...
Well seeing as this is in the Asian cars section I'll assume he's talking about Asian cars? And that takes the options down somewhat...for a start I dont believe (although I could be wrong) the Japs make any Supercharged cars then there's the cylinders, Four or Six cylinders in nearly all cases with Jap cars. So really the question is about high powered Japanese cars, I'd go for either the Skyline or possibly an Evo VIII as these in my mind are the best allround high spec Asian cars with extreamly decent 0-62 times, amazing top speeds and they're also good on the bends to boot. The Impreza would also be up there with the best of them although I think they're too over rated these days and if this question had been asked a couple of years ago when Subaru made the Bug eyed Impreza It wouldn't even be on my list!
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Old 02-29-2004, 05:33 PM   #10
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Sorry, should have been more specific.

Ok, motorex overcharges like hell, no way anyone should have to pay 100k for the Skyline, f*** that. Yes, im asking only for Japanese imports.

I want the best car that is fast, has comfortable seats (seat 4 if possible), has good trunk space and mpg for everday use, easily tunable, has good looks, and is affordable (make it under $60k). Lets narrow it down only to stock cars or upgrades already installed by the manufacturer.
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:56 AM   #11
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There are several sources, outside of the motorex rip off site, were you can get a Skyline for considerably less then 100K. As for even comparing an Evo or STi to a Skyline, well that is ludicrous.

The STi is often rated second when compared to an Evo (Edmunds, R&D). The Evo is fast stock, and makes a good tuner, but as any honest Mitsu owner will tell you, keeping them running is the hard part. I especially know this because I worked as a service advisor for a Mitsu dealer.

I would personally scratch all of those vehicles from my list. The Skyline would just cost too much and it would be a bear to get any parts for it. Personally, I would get the G35 AWD. It has a functioning back seat, large trunk, and gets 18/26 mpg. It has a N/A engine (260 hp, 260 Ft/lbs) which is not producing anything near its true potential. The engine is dead reliable and is 100K mi. maintenance free. It has a timing chain and not a damn belt that needs to be changed every 60K. The ATTESA E-TS AWD system is superior to both the Evo and STI. The amount of technology on the G35 is disgusting and it is just waiting to be woken up.

The G35 stickers at 31K and simple inexpensive mods will make it outperform most cars on the road. Just remember this is car is based on the new Skyline chassis and uses the same AWD system as the Skyline. It is also the car that broke BMWs car of the year reign (Motortrend).

Hope this helps ya in your quest for driving excitement.
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:09 PM   #12
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There are several sources, outside of the motorex rip off site, were you can get a Skyline for considerably less then 100K. As for even comparing an Evo or STi to a Skyline, well that is ludicrous.

The STi is often rated second when compared to an Evo (Edmunds, R&D). The Evo is fast stock, and makes a good tuner, but as any honest Mitsu owner will tell you, keeping them running is the hard part. I especially know this because I worked as a service advisor for a Mitsu dealer.

I would personally scratch all of those vehicles from my list. The Skyline would just cost too much and it would be a bear to get any parts for it. Personally, I would get the G35 AWD. It has a functioning back seat, large trunk, and gets 18/26 mpg. It has a N/A engine (260 hp, 260 Ft/lbs) which is not producing anything near its true potential. The engine is dead reliable and is 100K mi. maintenance free. It has a timing chain and not a damn belt that needs to be changed every 60K. The ATTESA E-TS AWD system is superior to both the Evo and STI. The amount of technology on the G35 is disgusting and it is just waiting to be woken up.

The G35 stickers at 31K and simple inexpensive mods will make it outperform most cars on the road. Just remember this is car is based on the new Skyline chassis and uses the same AWD system as the Skyline. It is also the car that broke BMWs car of the year reign (Motortrend).

Hope this helps ya in your quest for driving excitement.

Finally, this thread is producing some good info.
So you are saying the infinity is very similar to the skyline, and for $31 grand!!! Thats awesome. Thats the kind of info im lookin for. Thanks man, ill check it out.
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Old 03-01-2004, 11:38 PM   #13
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where would the TT 300hp 300zx rank in this.... is a stock Twin Turbo 300ZX better than the STI and the EVo?? it has more hp and weighs ~3,500lb's, 0 - 60 5secs flat... but then again so does the EVO... and lets not forget the 350z
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lets not forget the 350z

How about we do forget the 350Z? It doesn't quite fit four comfortably now does it?
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Can somebody answer a question for me? What is it about ricers or maybe it's children, I suspect there's a huge overlap between the two groups, that makes the question 'which car is best' so fascinating?

Do you realize that when you ask that question you create so many clarifying questions as to make it totally unanswerable? I will give importluva credit, he did put some parameters on this but still... For who, where, when, etc, etc, etc. It's still far too broad to really answer, unless you're only looking for opinions. If that's the case say so in the question. Ask 'what do you think is the best car' or 'what is your favorite car' or 'what 4-door sedan priced under $50k has the highest top speed'. Those are only examples of how to ask an opinion (first two) or a specific question (last one).

Come on guys, let's not sound like second graders on the playground. Let's make an effort to ask good thought out questions which will always lead to better answers.
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