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Old 06-17-2005, 04:07 PM   #1
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88 toyota celica st (auto) wont start, has elect pwr

I have owned this car for 13 years and it has served me well. I do keep getting this annoying problem off and on. Today it wont start, wont turn over. All pwer works, lights,wipers,radio,etc. Battery is fine, connections fine.

This has happened many times in the past and usually I will leave the car for an hour or so and come back and it will start right up.

I have tried starting in park and in neutral, jiggled the stick, new starter a year ago(even after the new starter i still had same probs later).

Very frustrating thing. After I finish posting this, it will probably start, but its too late for me to make my appt now

Does anyone have any insight to this?
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:09 PM   #2
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You tried to start it while it was in gear??? Or are you talking about a manuel tranny?
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:17 PM   #3
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You tried to start it while it was in gear??? Or are you talking about a manuel tranny?

LOL. No, i did not try to start it while it was in gear. Its an automatic and i tried in park and in neutral. I jiggled/shifted thru the gears and back to park just to amke sure the saftey switch wasnt causing the problem.
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LOL. No, i did not try to start it while it was in gear. Its an automatic and i tried in park and in neutral. I jiggled/shifted thru the gears and back to park just to amke sure the saftey switch wasnt causing the problem.

Started to scare the shit outta me there for a second. It sounds kinda like the starter needs to be replaced
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:34 PM   #5
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Started to scare the shit outta me there for a second. It sounds kinda like the starter needs to be replaced

Naww, the starter is good. Less than a year old. Like I said, the starter was replaced last year and the same thing kept happening. Im thinking the solenoid may be intermitent, but im not sure if that could be it.
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:38 PM   #6
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Naww, the starter is good. Less than a year old. Like I said, the starter was replaced last year and the same thing kept happening. Im thinking the solenoid may be intermitent, but im not sure if that could be it.

Sorry, didn't see that. My bet would be the solenoid but just wait until the more experienced people here get to this topic
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Sorry, didn't see that. My bet would be the solenoid but just wait until the more experienced people here get to this topic

Im not even sure if it could be the solenoid. And it still wont turn over. dead dead. jump starting wont do a thing either.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:05 PM   #8
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Im not even sure if it could be the solenoid. And it still wont turn over. dead dead. jump starting wont do a thing either.

Well...just get a new battery...maybe thats it. Sometimes jumpstarting a completely dead battery dosent do it. But then again, you said you were getting power to all your accesories right?
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:24 PM   #9
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Well...just get a new battery...maybe thats it. Sometimes jumpstarting a completely dead battery dosent do it. But then again, you said you were getting power to all your accesories right?

Yep, getting power to all my accesories . This happens every couple weeks or so. Wont crank, nothing. I wait a couple hours and bingo, it starts... but nowww. its not even doing that for me. Maybe a dif problem now, not sure. usually it would have started by now.
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Did you check to see if power was getting from the key to the starter solenoid when the key is in the start position? How about from the solenoid to the starter itself? If the starter is good, and you have power everywhere else, then either power isn't getting to the solenoid, it isn't getting THROUGH the solenoid, or it's not getting back to the chassis (bad ground connection from the engine to the chassis).
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Did you check to see if power was getting from the key to the starter solenoid when the key is in the start position? How about from the solenoid to the starter itself? If the starter is good, and you have power everywhere else, then either power isn't getting to the solenoid, it isn't getting THROUGH the solenoid, or it's not getting back to the chassis (bad ground connection from the engine to the chassis).

Love that Fiat Spider. I owned one while in Sicily, then bought a funky Fiat x19. lol. Anyway, ill check those connections when my neighbor gets home as I dont have the technical expertise(im stupid) to do it.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:28 PM   #13
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Well, 3 hours later it cranks right up !!!!!! But I really would like to know why it does this as I would like to fix it before i miss another appointment. Should i still go with your recommnedations ChrisV ?
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Well, 3 hours later it cranks right up !!!!!! But I really would like to know why it does this as I would like to fix it before i miss another appointment. Should i still go with your recommnedations ChrisV ?

I would stil check all electrical connections, since it isn't heat related. Check teh wiring from the switch to the starter, and in fact, check teh condition of the switch itself.

Mind you this is ONLy if the starter itself isn't bad again (new and rebuilt ones can be bad). But if it's similar symptoms, I'd say it's not at the starter.

And... it could still be the neutral safety switch.

Unfortunately, testing the electrical system when it happens is the only way to know for sure.
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Old 06-28-2005, 03:42 AM   #15
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I would stil check all electrical connections, since it isn't heat related. Check teh wiring from the switch to the starter, and in fact, check teh condition of the switch itself.

Mind you this is ONLy if the starter itself isn't bad again (new and rebuilt ones can be bad). But if it's similar symptoms, I'd say it's not at the starter.

And... it could still be the neutral safety switch.

Unfortunately, testing the electrical system when it happens is the only way to know for sure.

Well, new starter installed, will see what happens and how long it takes to do it again
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