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Old 09-18-2005, 08:08 PM   #1
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I saw this GTO the other day....

It was a new one. It has a 6.0 badge on the back. Can you really get them with a 6.0, or is someone just triing to trick everybody?
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:09 PM   #2
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It was a new one. It has a 6.0 badge on the back. Can you really get them with a 6.0, or is someone just triing to trick everybody?
Or maybe he put a 6.0 in it already
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:39 PM   #3
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I'll wait for someone to stuff a LS7 in it. Then you could go with a 7.0 badge on the back.
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Old 09-19-2005, 01:38 AM   #4
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Well, they're putting 6L in the commodore over here, and that's where the GTO comes from...
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Old 09-19-2005, 05:07 AM   #5
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It was a new one. It has a 6.0 badge on the back. Can you really get them with a 6.0, or is someone just triing to trick everybody?

Yes, the 2004 GTO had the LS1 5.7 while the 2005 GTO has the 6.0L LS2.
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Old 09-19-2005, 02:45 PM   #6
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Yes, the 2004 GTO had the LS1 5.7 while the 2005 GTO has the 6.0L LS2.
dang that's big
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dang that's big

That's the American car-maker philosophy, if you dont have enough hp (And yes 350hp wasnt enough for the GTO) add displacement. And thats what GM did, they took out the 5.7L LS1 and stuffed in the new 6.0L LS2 making 400hp. What's kind of sad to me is Euro and Asian manufacturers can make power like that with a lot less displacement (called DOHC 4v/cylinder ). For instance the new 4.0L V8 from BMW is going to make the same 400hp as the GTO's 6.0L V8. But it has DOHC head w/ 32v while the LS@ is still using the 'ole OHV 16v.
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Old 09-19-2005, 07:15 PM   #8
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That's the American car-maker philosophy, if you dont have enough hp (And yes 350hp wasnt enough for the GTO) add displacement. And thats what GM did, they took out the 5.7L LS1 and stuffed in the new 6.0L LS2 making 400hp. What's kind of sad to me is Euro and Asian manufacturers can make power like that with a lot less displacement (called DOHC 4v/cylinder ). For instance the new 4.0L V8 from BMW is going to make the same 400hp as the GTO's 6.0L V8. But it has DOHC head w/ 32v while the LS@ is still using the 'ole OHV 16v.
Yeah I know that's their philosophy, but seriously, my dad's Titan only has a 5.6! How much do you need?
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:35 PM   #9
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Yeah I know that's their philosophy, but seriously, my dad's Titan only has a 5.6! How much do you need?

As much as the people want. The GTO didnt sell for shit with the LS1 and 350hp. Sales picked up slightly with the new LS2 in it.

BTW - I'd rather have the 5.6 DOHC in the Titan than an LS2. Wonderful engine.
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Old 09-20-2005, 02:50 AM   #10
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...BTW - I'd rather have the 5.6 DOHC in the Titan than an LS2. Wonderful engine.
Well DOH!!! Let's see, Nissan or Pontiac?......
NISSAN
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Well DOH!!! Let's see, Nissan or Pontiac?......
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Hmm? In what way?

Please name a Nissan that can go from 0-60 as fast as the new GTO can. And by this, I mean a street legal, stock Nissan.
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Hmm? In what way?

Please name a Nissan that can go from 0-60 as fast as the new GTO can. And by this, I mean a street legal, stock Nissan.

None. But who cares, all I want is the 5.6 DOHC. Possibly the entire truck Afterall it is the best half ton
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Hmm? In what way?

Please name a Nissan that can go from 0-60 as fast as the new GTO can. And by this, I mean a street legal, stock Nissan.
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That's the American car-maker philosophy, if you dont have enough hp (And yes 350hp wasnt enough for the GTO) add displacement. And thats what GM did, they took out the 5.7L LS1 and stuffed in the new 6.0L LS2 making 400hp. What's kind of sad to me is Euro and Asian manufacturers can make power like that with a lot less displacement (called DOHC 4v/cylinder ). For instance the new 4.0L V8 from BMW is going to make the same 400hp as the GTO's 6.0L V8. But it has DOHC head w/ 32v while the LS@ is still using the 'ole OHV 16v.


You have no clue as to what "torque curve" is, do you? Or hp/dollar.

You know just enough to be f*cking dangerous.

How much higher COST is that BMW engine? How much physically LARGER overall is that BMW engine? The 4.0 loter DOHC 32 valve Toyota/Lexus 1UZ engine I have sitting here to go into my '63 Comet is physically larger than the pushrod 5 liter Ford, and about the same width as the 6 liter Chevy. But the 1UZ is the smallest DOHC V8 availble in modern cars. The BMW engine is MUCH larger.
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Old 09-20-2005, 02:20 PM   #15
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Hmm? In what way?

Please name a Nissan that can go from 0-60 as fast as the new GTO can. And by this, I mean a street legal, stock Nissan.
Well, for one thing, the Pontiac is GM, plus they're all just ugly, except for the GTO, which is just plain.
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