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Old 12-12-2005, 02:34 AM   #1
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Nitrous

So exactly how does this work. How long does a 5L bottle last? What kind of performance gain can I expect, and how much would a decent kit be for my car? What about the installation?
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:23 AM   #2
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You must be kidding...

But, in answer to your question, here we go:

In order to burn more fuel, you need to add additional fuel and oxygen to let the fuel burn.

Every nitrous-oxide system does that either through the factory injectors or by adding additional fuel nozzles. The nitrous oxide system simply puts more fuel into the engine. The additional amount of oxygen needed to burn this fuel is also supplied by the nitrous-oxide system. The additional oxygen is supplied by injecting gaseous nitrous oxide into the engine. When the nitrous oxide gets inside the engine, it supplies almost twice the amount of oxygen for combustion.

A bottle, high-pressure lines, solenoids, jets and nozzles are included in all nitrous-oxide systems. The nitrous-oxide bottle usually holds 10 lb of nitrous oxide (not that much) and usually stored in the trunk (contrary to Fast and Furious movies. A high-pressure line will carry the nitrous oxide forward to the solenoid. The solenoid is an electronically controlled valve. When a signal of 12 volts is sent to the solenoid, it opens and nitrous oxide is then sent to the nozzle and into the engine. At the same time that nitrous oxide is injected into the engine, the nitrous-oxide system will by some means add additional fuel into the engine. Fuel is injected at anywhere from 6 to 60 psi, while the nitrous oxide is injected at 700 to 1200 psi.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:27 AM   #3
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Now, here's why I think you're nuts:

Most starter systems come ready to generate an additional 40 to 120 hp but improperly installed nitrous-oxide system can cause severe engine damage. If nitrous oxide is injected into the engine without supplying an adequate amount of fuel or no fuel at all, then you've got trouble. The temperatures in the combustion chamber will skyrocket, and the engine may detonate and parts will be broken and melted, not to mention your car can turn to a July 4th Fireworks display.

Also, the less you learn about nitrous, the more likely you are to have a bad experience. Also, and most important, it is not the use of nitrous oxide that causes engine damage. It is the misuse of nitrous oxide by the tuner and driver (no comment). Every engine has its limit. A stock engine doesn't have the toughness of a racing engine. The engine of a Neon won't be able to handle that much.

Factory fuel filters begin to degrade in performance as early as 10,000 miles. When installing a new nitrous-oxide system, it is recommended that you replace your factory fuel filter and be sure that the injectors are clean. This is pricey, if you include it into the price of the Nitrous. The other area that you need to address is the vehicle's ignition system. A factory ignition system is designed to operate at near factory horsepower levels. A nitrous-oxide system can easily overcome the capabilities of a stock ignition system. Be sure that the spark plugs are new and that the ignition cables are in good condition. This is even more money.

The cap and rotor should also be inspected on non-direct-ignition-system cars. An ignition amplifier, high-performance ignition wires and spark plugs that are one heat range cooler.

Add in all that, plus the actual system, plus the installation, plus the risk factor, I don't think it's worth it. That took a lot of research so if anyone wants to correct me, feel free to do so.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:31 AM   #4
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Copy paste, copy paste. Im half serious about the idea. If I had money I would, but not for this car.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:33 AM   #5
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First of all, get some facts before you make accusations. Since it's not copied and pasted exactly word for word, unless I gave you the site from where I got it, you'd never be able to locate it.

Secondly, if it's so easy, why couldn't you find it and asked here? That's what I thought.

Anyway, that's the answer to the question asked, I learned something new too.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:34 AM   #6
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First of all, get some facts before you make accusations. Since it's not copied and pasted exactly word for word, unless I gave you the site from where I got it, you'd never be able to locate it.

Secondly, if it's so easy, why couldn't you find it and asked here? That's what I thought.

Anyway, that's the answer to the question asked, I learned something new too.
But you DID give me the link to where you got it.
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0205it_nitrous/
I just wanted to see how dumb this idea was.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:36 AM   #7
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But you DID give me the link to where you got it.
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0205it_nitrous/
I just wanted to see how dumb this idea was.

I actually wanted to just paste the link, but a lot of stuff around here is considered advertising, and I thought that link might be it.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:41 AM   #8
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I actually wanted to just paste the link, but a lot of stuff around here is considered advertising, and I thought that link might be it.
Nop. If tis educational, im sure the mods wont have any problems...Now will we fellas?
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I see ads for it in quite a bit of tuner magazines...of which I only buy Sport Compact Car, with different boosts in power, from 30 or 60 (I think) up to 120 I believe...can't remember any prices on them though ...And I remember it saying that you can't use it on a turbocharged engine (for obvious reasons).
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Add in all that, plus the actual system, plus the installation, plus the risk factor, I don't think it's worth it. That took a lot of research so if anyone wants to correct me, feel free to do so.

It's plenty worth it. Name one other upgrade where you can get 150 horses for 500-600 bucks.
And here's a link for info on nitrous
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And I remember it saying that you can't use it on a turbocharged engine (for obvious reasons).

You might want to tell John Sheppard that, because I'm not sure he knows .
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...The additional oxygen is supplied by injecting gaseous nitrous oxide into the engine. When the nitrous oxide gets inside the engine, it supplies almost twice the amount of oxygen for combustion.
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Hey, this makes the engine burn cleaner!! We can all put NOS in our cars and then they'll be more enviroment friendly!! We have found a way to defeat the enviromentalist wackos!! YAY!!!
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Hey, this makes the engine burn cleaner!! We can all put NOS in our cars and then they'll be more enviroment friendly!! We have found a way to defeat the enviromentalist wackos!! YAY!!!

Except that nitrous actually acts like it's doubling your displacement. More fuel to go with that air.

And the environmentalist wackos were trying to get this stuff illegalized.
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Except that nitrous actually acts like it's doubling your displacement. More fuel to go with that air.

And the environmentalist wackos were trying to get this stuff illegalized.
Well, if it adds more oxygen than fuel, then the engine is burning cleaner.
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Well, if it adds more oxygen than fuel, then the engine is burning cleaner.

Nope. With nitrous, you're getting more air in, but there always needs to be 14.7 parts oxygen to 1 part gasoline (stoic).

So now, instead of 73.5 parts oxygen with 5 parts gasoline, you're getting 147 parts oxygen to 10 parts gasoline.

And there is no real 'burning cleaner'. You're just thinking of burning 'leaner' which is VERY bad for your car when your combustion chamber is running lean with nitrous.
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