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Old 12-14-2005, 01:17 AM   #1
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Fwd

Can someone please point out ONE performance advantage that FWD has over RWD? I'm completely blank....

On a track, straight, anything. Name one advantage.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:12 AM   #2
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I'd reckon it'd be a little better accelerating out of corners in the wet ... no? sure, you'd still get wheel slip, but you'd be less likely to lose control of the car.

Just a guess anyway..
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:52 AM   #3
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:56 AM   #4
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possibly weight shifting to the rear under hard acceleration = more traction for rear tires.

why not ask this question to nascar/formula 1/le mans teams? maybe they have an answer? but so far as i know, under 300hp, there's no real difference in preformance.

tire wear may also be of importance for endurance races of cars with high horsepower (let's just say 300hp is "high"). being the wheels that both turn the car and drive the car, the front wheels would have more tirewear in a FWD car by far. with a RWD car tire wear is more evenly distributed, and therefore it would take longer before a new set of tires is needed.

You perfectly missed the the point of this post.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:04 AM   #5
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You perfectly missed the the point of this post.
oh crap. i completely read that wrong... oops.

in THAT case... with a RWD car you have to take into consideration the power lost in the drivetrain. what about a FWD car? hardly...

a FWD car has more traction (very apptarent in snow and rain).

that is all.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:33 AM   #6
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Check this out...It's a comparison between FWD/RWD

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FWD pros:
Good traction during mild acceleration on slippery surfaces. Lighter weight helps fuel-efficiency. Interior room enhanced by lack of longitudinal driveshaft. Less expensive to manufacture.

RWD pros:
Fore-aft weight distribution more balanced. Braking performance enhanced. Tire wear more even. Cornering easier, more responsive. Lighter than AWD configuration for better acceleration and cornering performance and better fuel-efficiency. Better hard acceleration performance on good surfaces than with FWD. Better cornering ability because steering and propulsion are applied at separate axles. Greater agility because of lower resistance to changes in direction (lower moment of inertia). Longer wheelbase for smoother ride. Absence of torque steering effect common with FWD. No CV joints to replace.

That hump in RWD's is the worst thing for me, when I have to sit in the back, with one or 2 other people...can't fit my feet
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:57 AM   #7
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Check this out...It's a comparison between FWD/RWD



That hump in RWD's is the worst thing for me, when I have to sit in the back, with one or 2 other people...can't fit my feet
he said rwd, not awd....
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:58 AM   #8
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he said rwd, not awd....

Oops...just saw it ...Copied the wrong one :ohcrap, fixed now though
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:20 AM   #9
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FWD has more stability than a RWD in my opinion.
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:54 AM   #10
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FWD has more stability than a RWD in my opinion.

Yeah, they do. Its just an better daily driver solution. Sure, when you take it to the extreme; it may not handle as well as RWD cars. But at the end of a 8 hour work shift and its raining, i would think the last thing you would want to worry about is fishtailing. FWD cars are just more practical if you live in a wet climate like me. I have nothing against RWD cars, it really depends on the car really.

It's the same argument about daily driving vs a sports car. With the money i spent on my car, i would've been able to afford a STi. Even though the STi outperforms it every way, its just not practical. Fuel efficency around the same if not worst (thats compared with a 3.2L V6), crappy interior, expensive insurance, and in my opinion the styling inside and out is just plain inferior. After a long day's work, you want a car that babies you, but not so sedate that you can't take it out on the weekend to have some fun. It really depends on your preference. I personally prefer luxury over pure performance, but not completely sacrificing performance either.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:26 PM   #11
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Performance advantage? As in 0-60, cornering, braking? None. Performance disadvantage? Until you're at the outer limits of performance? None.

Actual tuning of the chassis makes mroe differnce. A reasonably well tuned FWD car can easily perform as well as or better than a reasonably well tuned RWD car. A car like my SVT Contour had no disadvantage to a RWD car of similar size and power.

Since performance outside of ultimate racing classes and <10 second quarter miles is a wash based on layout, then the rest comes into effect. FWD gives packaging benefits in smaller cars AND luxury cars. It gives a slight advantage in inclement weather. Since most cars end up being stock (or relatively stock) street cars, the argument over FWD vs RWD tends to be mostly mental masturbation, as it's really not an important factor.
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:39 AM   #12
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I'd reckon it'd be a little better accelerating out of corners in the wet ... no? sure, you'd still get wheel slip, but you'd be less likely to lose control of the car.

Just a guess anyway..
Easier to control....but a bit hairy if a tree's fast approaching you lol
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:17 AM   #13
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Can someone please point out ONE performance advantage that FWD has over RWD? I'm completely blank....

On a track, straight, anything. Name one advantage.

Less drivetrain losses.
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:11 PM   #14
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. ....the argument over FWD vs RWD tends to be mostly mental masturbation, as it's really not an important factor.

lol, thats a good one
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:48 AM   #15
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Less drivetrain losses.
That's the first thing that I thought of, but then I realized that a MR or RR setup would/should have the same drivetrain loss.

And ChrisV,

I disagree, perhaps you could explain why among mostly stock cars, power placement doesn't matter?
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