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Old 12-27-2005, 01:55 AM   #16
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ok so the 2nd gens are totally different then the first gens. so the first gens came stock with a 2.0l turbocharged motor from the factory then. Or they came with a n/a 2.0l what about the 2.4 was that just in the spyders then

The cars were available with the option of a 1.8L SOHC N/A motor, or a 2.0L DOHC 4G63 N/A, or a 2.0L DOHC 4G63 Turbo. It depends on what you ordered.
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Old 01-04-2006, 01:48 AM   #17
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What car (specifically) do you currently have?

If you have a '95-'99 Eclipse/Talon that is non-turbo... it's a VERY difficult swap to put a 4G63 in it. Granted, it can be done, and has been done many times. But, you will ultimately spend more doing the swap than you would selling your non-turbo vehicle and purchasing a factory turbo car.

well accually the '95-'99 eclipses/talons came stock with a 4g63 engine. it came in 4 different options: the 1.8 liter and 2.0 liter both nonturbo fwd...they also had the 2.0 liter turbo available in fwd or awd.
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Old 01-04-2006, 02:02 AM   #18
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well accually the '95-'99 eclipses/talons came stock with a 4g63 engine. it came in 4 different options: the 1.8 liter and 2.0 liter both nonturbo fwd...they also had the 2.0 liter turbo available in fwd or awd.
not quite correct...

the non-turbo 2g eclipse/talon was a 420a engine. and i've never heard of a 1.8L in '95-'99 eclipse/talon, just in 1994 and before.
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Old 01-04-2006, 02:12 AM   #19
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not quite correct...

the non-turbo 2g eclipse/talon was a 420a engine. and i've never heard of a 1.8L in '95-'99 eclipse/talon, just in 1994 and before.

yeah they did stop making the 1.8 in 94. but it dont matter, it was a peice anyway
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:13 AM   #20
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well accually the '95-'99 eclipses/talons came stock with a 4g63 engine. it came in 4 different options: the 1.8 liter and 2.0 liter both nonturbo fwd...they also had the 2.0 liter turbo available in fwd or awd.

Stop talking for crying out loud. The TURBO '95-'99 Eclipse/Talons came with a 4G63 (our original poster owns a N/T '95-'99... which means it's a 420A)... please read the whole thread before you jump on here and reply some incorrect crap... thanks.

The 1.8L was not available after '94. The N/T cars (GS, RS, ESI) had a 420A motor, the Turbo cars (GST, GSX, TSI) had a 4G63. Now pipe down!
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:13 AM   #21
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:10 AM   #22
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Oy Vei .While most of the knowledge is somewhat true, it is by no means conclusive.

Diamond Star Motors was not dissolved in 1993. Diamond Star Motors was officially renamed to Mitsubishi Motor Manufacturing of America, Inc. on July 1, 1995. Chrysler sold the plant in Normal, Illinois to Mitsubishi in 1991. Manufacturing of Chrysler vehicles was after that by contract only. On a further note, you can trace DSM roots all the way to the 1970's. However, the company was officially started in 1985.

When referring to an engine, it is correct and of proper mechanical language to refer to it by its full name. The 4G63 and 4G63T are two completly different motors, period.

The first generation DSM's were offered with a base 92HP(N/A) 1.8L motor, a 135HP(N/A) 4G63 motor, and a 195HP 4G63T(turbo) motor.

The second generation DSM's were offerd with a base 140HP(N/A) 2.0L 420A motor, a 141HP(N/A) 4G64 (Spyder) motor, and a 210HP 4G63T(turbo) motor.

There were no others, and if anyone tells you any different feel free to drop-kick them in their eye socket because they speak lies.

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Can you swap a 4G63T motor in the chassis of a DSM that previously held the 420A or 4G64? Yes, with time, money, and effort anything can be done. The chassis and engine bay, in relation to size and design structure, are virtually identical. However new mounting points will need to be constructed in order for the new motor to bolt into a safe, secure position. I would suggest sourcing a turbo transmission. Provided you have the correct knowledge, skills, and tools the swap can be done for a little over the price of a full motor with harness and some other additional parts.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:32 AM   #23
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Hahaha I thought you left DSMer.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:41 AM   #24
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Hahaha I thought you left DSMer.

Who? Me?...., Here? Now what would give you that idea? This is simply a figment of your imagination.
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Old 01-07-2006, 07:09 PM   #26
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Man your quarter mile times are amazing, how muhc money do you have in that thing?

That's John Shepherd's car, not DSMer's
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Old 01-07-2006, 08:52 PM   #27
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I dont think the 420a to 4G63 swap has ever been done. Last I heard, the guy that got the closest gave up.
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Who? Me?...., Here? Now what would give you that idea? This is simply a figment of your imagination.

Well you haven't posted for a couple of months.
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Old 01-08-2006, 06:17 AM   #29
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I dont think the 420a to 4G63 swap has ever been done. Last I heard, the guy that got the closest gave up.

Wow, you really just need to stop typing. There have been many people who have completed a 420A to 4G63t swap, there have been several people to do the 420A to AWD 4G63t swap, a few people that have done an AWD swap into a convertible and at least two people that I've read about have put a 4G63t with AWD into a Honda Civic. There have been many more put the FWD 4G63t drivetrain into a Civic. There have been many people put the 4G63t into a Mirage, and a few who put the 4G63t with AWD into a Mirage. I still can't believe how much your comment was a "shot in the dark". If you don't know, just don't reply... Mmmm Kay .
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:55 AM   #30
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Wow, you really just need to stop typing. There have been many people who have completed a 420A to 4G63t swap, there have been several people to do the 420A to AWD 4G63t swap, a few people that have done an AWD swap into a convertible and at least two people that I've read about have put a 4G63t with AWD into a Honda Civic. There have been many more put the FWD 4G63t drivetrain into a Civic. There have been many people put the 4G63t into a Mirage, and a few who put the 4G63t with AWD into a Mirage. I still can't believe how much your comment was a "shot in the dark". If you don't know, just don't reply... Mmmm Kay .
You really need to stop typing and show some links to these "many" people who have done a successful 420a to 4g63t. From what I heard and seen, there has been many attempts at a 420a to 4g63t swap, but almost all have failed. Also, I would love to see a link to a 420a to AWD 4g63t, because not only is a 420a to 4g63t expensive, but attempting AWD will just bring that price up alot more. About the Civic, some people have done a 4g63t swap, but I have never seen or heard of an AWD 4g63t swap into a Civic. Now, AWD into a Spyder is easier and I believe has been done before. And what PontiacFan said is true, there was a guy that tried to do a 420a to 4g63t swap, got it in, but it had many problems and he gave up on it.
I'm not saying doing a 420a to 4g63t swap is impossible, but is very expensive, and alot of work. And everything you have said IS possible, but you have to remember, almost everything is possible with enough money.
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