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Old 01-04-2006, 03:44 AM   #91
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having a stick no way affects your speed, unless you have to downshift alot, then auto's get confused and shift wrong, or slower. going around the lot in circles, shifting should not mean anything, so you assuming a stick is a faster car, is off.

plus most americans drive auto b/c they are lazy and think of cars njot as something fun but as something dull and transport only, like sum1 said. i hated learning on auto b/c when i was picking out my car, stick was out of the question, so now im still stuck with having to learn stick on a car with so much tourque i can shift into second at 15mph and stay in second all the way till 60mph... not fun at all, but itll be worth it
no but you have more control over your driving. You mean to tell me that a 4-speed automatic altima and a 5-speed manual altima both stock, pull the same times?
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:50 AM   #92
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if you went out and raced them, no, the auto would pull better times, im asuming you dont throw perfect shifts everytime. also an auto can be drag tuned to pull the perfect shifts, to get the best times, more esaliy than one can learn to shift perfect everytime
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Old 01-04-2006, 04:00 AM   #93
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if you went out and raced them, no, the auto would pull better times, im asuming you dont throw perfect shifts everytime. also an auto can be drag tuned to pull the perfect shifts, to get the best times, more esaliy than one can learn to shift perfect everytime

Its not that hard to shift. Besides, most auto trans' shift very slowly and have a hard time deciding what to do.
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Old 01-04-2006, 04:03 AM   #94
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i like the fact i can select my gear before a corner... i would never own an auto!
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Old 01-04-2006, 04:23 AM   #95
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Like you said, most Americans don't drive manual because they're lazy. And the classic excuse people always say... "It's too hard, I wouldn't be able to learn" or "To much work changing gears all the time."
It's not hard, and after learning you don't even have to think about it.
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Old 01-04-2006, 04:26 AM   #96
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Its not that hard to shift. Besides, most auto trans' shift very slowly and have a hard time deciding what to do.
Ive seen these things called valve bodies for the neon. They make shifts pretty much a split second.
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Old 01-04-2006, 04:58 AM   #97
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I'm planning on getting stick for a first car...I plan on driving a lot, so gas mileage would be a bitch, and it's funner...

I guess I'll be the first to congratulate you...but don't do it again
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:31 AM   #98
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For the 360 I presume. Just out of curiosity, how much did you pay.

Sorry Im respondin so late about it but I got home not too long ago (work and then bars).

Anyways, No its not for the 360 and let me explain.

Keeping in mind the the PS3 drops in a few months and I won't be using my ps2 much, I gave it to my little brother for christmas. So I came back to Carbondale w/o a system and realized I don't have a dvd player also. Anyways, my roomate's xbox shitted on him a couple of months ago (typical dvd lens burned out). Instead of fixing it, he bought a new one. So there was a non working xbox lying in my living room when I got back.

Seeing as how this town is boring as all hell, I decided to take it apart, then I got on ebay, bought a whole drive (not just the lens) for $25.00 plus $10.00 Shipping and I'm still waiting for it so I could stop being so bored. Once it's fixed, I'm bying it off of my friend, keep in mind this is just to hold me out untill the PS3 drops. God I cant wait till that happens.
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I said I could. But that was a mistake. Il never know until I try.

got an excuse for everything, dont ya??
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Old 01-04-2006, 01:17 PM   #100
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got an excuse for everything, dont ya??
You never know if youll get smarter from . Why dont you try and see if it works for you.
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You never know if youll get smarter from . Why dont you try and see if it works for you.

already tried, the wall lost.
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already tried, the wall lost.
So you mean to say that you stayed the idiot that you are?
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So you mean to say that you stayed the idiot that you are?

why am i an idiot?? i called you on a lie, you confessed. it just seems to me that you have an excuse for everything, even about a lie. you sir are the idiot.
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Its not that hard to shift. Besides, most auto trans' shift very slowly and have a hard time deciding what to do.

im not saying its hard to shift, just on a drag, a non professional woudl pull better times with an auto for his first run, than a stick, straight line, with the pedal floored, and auto will have no problem shifting, but a real person might miss shift/not perfect shift/etc, this is what im saying
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im not saying its hard to shift, just on a drag, a non professional woudl pull better times with an auto for his first run, than a stick, straight line, with the pedal floored, and auto will have no problem shifting, but a real person might miss shift/not perfect shift/etc, this is what im saying

I don't think so...I think unless you've barely driven stick (like me) then yes, you will do better on automatic...but after a couple of years of standard transmission driving...I think you'd be better on that than automatic.
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