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Old 02-13-2006, 05:53 PM   #1
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OK to start I know this isnt the place for SUVs but the other forum has been down so Il just ask here. Here goes
Ive been a bit closed minded lately with the whole SRT-4 thing, and when I was at the auto show, I got into the wrangler for laughs and giggles as a joke, and believe it or not, I actually really liked it. The exterior is quite nice, and the interior is simple but functional. I like how you can remove the doors, roof and so on. It seems like a nice jeep, and I believe they are all 4x4 and most of them are manual trans (what i want), so I just wanted some opinions. Also how is the relibability. Ive been reading a bit, and heard from some that they go up to 200k and over with proper care. I would be interested in the 4 cylinder for fuel economy, since they only top at 100 anyway. They seem nice for just cruising, and good for all weather where the srt-4 in the snow, would pretty much be undrivable. Also since drving my moms RAV4, ive kinda liked being a bit higher from the ground, because I feel I have more control over the vehicle. What do you guys think? Also what kinda power do they push.
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OK to start I know this isnt the place for SUVs but the other forum has been down so Il just ask here. Here goes
Ive been a bit closed minded lately with the whole SRT-4 thing, and when I was at the auto show, I got into the wrangler for laughs and giggles as a joke, and believe it or not, I actually really liked it. The exterior is quite nice, and the interior is simple but functional. I like how you can remove the doors, roof and so on. It seems like a nice jeep, and I believe they are all 4x4 and most of them are manual trans (what i want), so I just wanted some opinions. Also how is the relibability. Ive been reading a bit, and heard from some that they go up to 200k and over with proper care. I would be interested in the 4 cylinder for fuel economy, since they only top at 100 anyway. They seem nice for just cruising, and good for all weather where the srt-4 in the snow, would pretty much be undrivable. Also since drving my moms RAV4, ive kinda liked being a bit higher from the ground, because I feel I have more control over the vehicle. What do you guys think? Also what kinda power do they push.

I know the 4.0L I6 had problems galore for years (mostly oil leaking issues), but i heard they are putting in a new 3.8L for 2007. I've never driven a four banger model but I can imagine it would be pretty painfully slow for my tastes. The 4.0L I6 I drove (1994 model) was very aggrivating to drive because of the lack of power (180hp, 3100lbs) especially on the highway (thanks to 4wd).

The 2.4L they have now only puts out 147bhp and 165tq and the Wrangler weighs about 3200-3300lbs from what I remember. So it would be pretty frustrating to drive IMO. I would definatley try and pickup a newer I6 model with 200hp.
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Old 02-13-2006, 06:13 PM   #3
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I know the 4.0L I6 had problems galore for years (mostly oil leaking issues), but i heard they are putting in a new 3.8L for 2007. I've never driven a four banger model but I can imagine it would be pretty painfully slow for my tastes. The 4.0L I6 I drove (1994 model) was very aggrivating to drive because of the lack of power (180hp, 3100lbs) especially on the highway (thanks to 4wd).

The 2.4L they have now only puts out 147bhp and 165tq and the Wrangler weighs about 3200-3300lbs from what I remember. So it would be pretty frustrating to drive IMO. I would definatley try and pickup a newer I6 model with 200hp.
But I mean is it nice for just driving around and not racing it or whatever? They are quite expensive
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I may be wrong here, but I've always looked at Wranglers as kinda like the old Suzuki Vitara's......something for the beach, with strangely soft suspension lol. As I said, I might be wrong, but with this in mind....I'd say they'd be a nice mix between on-road and off-road vehicle, as any 'soft roader' tends to be....
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But I mean is it nice for just driving around and not racing it or whatever? They are quite expensive

I forgot you drive a Neon, should be slow enough for you

J/K

But really, It bothered me driving the I6 4wd on the highway, no top end. But that's to be expected. Even my 1990 Accord felt much quicker accelerating at highway speeds than the Wrangler I drove did (even with the Accord only having 125hp, guess it was the FWD instead of 4wd for top end).
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I know the 4.0L I6 had problems galore for years (mostly oil leaking issues), but i heard they are putting in a new 3.8L for 2007. I've never driven a four banger model but I can imagine it would be pretty painfully slow for my tastes. The 4.0L I6 I drove (1994 model) was very aggrivating to drive because of the lack of power (180hp, 3100lbs) especially on the highway (thanks to 4wd).

The 2.4L they have now only puts out 147bhp and 165tq and the Wrangler weighs about 3200-3300lbs from what I remember. So it would be pretty frustrating to drive IMO. I would definatley try and pickup a newer I6 model with 200hp.
Brother, if you want to know what the true definition of aggrivation means, then drive a 2.3 liter Ranger and floor it
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Brother, if you want to know what the true definition of aggrivation means, then drive a 2.3 liter Ranger and floor it

i got a better one. a 1988 ranger with a 2.0!!!!! talk about slow
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Brother, if you want to know what the true definition of aggrivation means, then drive a 2.3 liter Ranger and floor it

I have driven a '77 Civic CVCC with 70hp, albeit it only weighed probably 2000lbs.
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I have driven a '77 Civic CVCC with 70hp, albeit it only weighed probably 2000lbs.
take that same 70hp, add 765lbs, and you've got a toyota prius. that's probably the least fun car i've driven...
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take that same 70hp, add 765lbs, and you've got a toyota prius. that's probably the least fun car i've driven...
Gets great milage tho. And has XENON
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Gets great milage tho. And has XENON
and overpriced for it's class.
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and overpriced for it's class.
What do you want...hybrid technology...
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and overpriced for it's class.
You get to write it off on your taxes
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What do you want...hybrid technology...
well... if they're "saving" you gas at the pump... they're just taking a larger chunk away from you at the dealership. (in the case of this, and other hybrid, cars)

chris_knows, how much of a tax deduction is it per year?
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well... if they're "saving" you gas at the pump... they're just taking a larger chunk away from you at the dealership. (in the case of this, and other hybrid, cars)

chris_knows, how much of a tax deduction is it per year?
Up to 2 Grand, but probably closer to one...
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax_hybrid.shtml
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