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Old 03-11-2006, 12:22 AM   #1
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2007 BMW 335I Coupe

The 3 series coupe is finally coming out soon and in a big way...

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....ticle_id=10753

302 hp twin turbo I6.

Not sequential turbos, but rather two small same size turbos each feeding 3 cylinders. Interesting, BMW says there is ZERO lag. Makes sense.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:23 AM   #2
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This is like a Supra TT (although not sequential, still TT 3.0L I6 with about the same output) of the '00s, only more refined.
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:25 AM   #3
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Hmm, that's a pretty sexy Bimmer. I usually think they're all ass ugly, but that's not too bad. I'm glad the Inline 6 is still in use somewhere, as the new Supra is going V style
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Old 03-11-2006, 04:26 AM   #4
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Interesting, but I like the idea that Bimmers are always non-turboed. Oh well. Makes it simpler....
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Old 03-11-2006, 04:57 AM   #5
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About damn time lol

I don't think it's the best looking Bimmer, but definitely a very good looking one, I definately wouldn't mind riding in one
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Old 03-11-2006, 05:32 AM   #6
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Hmm, I think the previous coupe's a better looker. Can't wait to see the M version!
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Old 03-11-2006, 05:34 AM   #7
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Hmm, I think the previous coupe's a better looker. Can't wait to see the M version!
me too... i dont know why, but these ones just have a flimsier look to them...

and this coupe looks a little dispraportionate... maybe a little too long or something.
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Old 03-11-2006, 07:02 AM   #8
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Hmm, that's a pretty sexy Bimmer. I usually think they're all ass ugly, but that's not too bad. I'm glad the Inline 6 is still in use somewhere, as the new Supra is going V style

This is an interesting application of the twin turbos for an I6. Not sequential but rather two same size small turbos each blowing into 3 cylinders. They say it means no lag.

I guess this setup is best for quick spool and no lag, but because of the size of the turbos it doesnt add a lot of power (47 more hp over the N/A 3.0L). I love that torque! 295ft-lbs available at 1500rpms!
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Old 03-11-2006, 10:39 AM   #9
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looks like a very nice car i personally thhink they should've stayed n/a
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I like thought that of it being a Twin Turbo, and I'm glad they're staying with the current engine too!
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Zero lag? Hmm. I'll wait until BMW tells me that.

For them to claim they're car creates zero lag when zero lag from a turbo with no super-tricky setup is next to impossible....seems a bit foolish to announce such things.


Let's do some math
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Zero lag? Hmm. I'll wait until BMW tells me that.

For them to claim they're car creates zero lag when zero lag from a turbo with no super-tricky setup is next to impossible....seems a bit foolish to announce such things.


Let's do some math
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If you read all about it, it is a super tricky setup,
and if they already know about the 295 lb ft of torque at 1500rpm
then i guess that means zero lag,

and also bmw clearly says there is zero lag
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and also bmw clearly says there is zero lag

Highlight it and quote it for me. WHERE does it say zero lag?

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Highlight it and quote it for me. WHERE does it say zero lag?

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The symmetrical turbos are relatively small and each feed three cylinders. Power output is up only 47 hp over the normally aspirated version of the same 3.0-liter six found in the 330i, but BMW claims that turbo lag is all but avoided and more importantly peak torque increases 34 percent and is available from 1500 to 5800 rpm.

and peak torque at 1500 to 5800rpm =zero lag
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peak torque at 1500 to 5800rpm =zero lag

No where in the quote did it say "zero lag".

Low end torque does not equal zero lag. What the f...
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