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Old 04-04-2006, 04:16 AM   #31
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You're really an ignorant ass. I never said I was and "automotive genius". Get your shit straight. Hes helping me out you ****ing dick.
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You could just go down to AutoZone or something. . .but I would say no more than 65 bucks.
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I always did like the look of the 80s Cutlasses. The only thing wrong with them is that they came with an underpowered turd box 305 (which you have fixed already ) or a VERY underopowered 6 cylinder and they are rattletraps. Very noisy going down the road.
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Well Id say that what you need is a new alternator, and your problem will be solved!
Yeah, I guess your posts prove you're right.
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:26 AM   #32
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Yeah, I guess your posts prove you're right.
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:27 AM   #33
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what happened???
WTF are you on about?
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:49 AM   #34
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Hobo I dyno'd at 209.5whp and 221.7wtq.

Thunderbird: there is a lot more to take into consideration than just horsepower and torque, weight and gearing play a significant part and the M3 beats up on the must on both. For comparison that day at the track, my first run I beat a TA ws6 (I dont think he had much if anything done) by about 2 tenths or half a car length. I also had an even time with an ls2 GTO. and stomped my friends 2002 mustang GT (auto, catback, intake) by 7 tenths.

I am by no means saying I would run a 13.1 at sea level, online converters obviously arent as good as actually going to sea level and running, but I would be close to it.

I DID run a 14.582 in Albuquerque though (most intarweb people they dont understand thats a good time for here) and can take a pic of the timeslip if no one believes me.
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:09 AM   #35
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If you do the calculation, he needs about 220 hp at the wheels to run that number. I'm not sure I buy it, but it's definitely within the realm of possibility.

I'm guess this calculator assumes the best possible cases for the car? IE: slicks, best gearing...

But heck even if his M3 had slicks and really good gears, would it be capable of going 13.1 with 260hp (Crank) and weighing a smidge under 3200lbs?
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:12 AM   #36
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:18 AM   #37
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Hobo I dyno'd at 209.5whp and 221.7wtq.

Thunderbird: there is a lot more to take into consideration than just horsepower and torque, weight and gearing play a significant part and the M3 beats up on the must on both. For comparison that day at the track, my first run I beat a TA ws6 (I dont think he had much if anything done) by about 2 tenths or half a car length. I also had an even time with an ls2 GTO. and stomped my friends 2002 mustang GT (auto, catback, intake) by 7 tenths.

I am by no means saying I would run a 13.1 at sea level, online converters obviously arent as good as actually going to sea level and running, but I would be close to it.

I DID run a 14.582 in Albuquerque though (most intarweb people they dont understand thats a good time for here) and can take a pic of the timeslip if no one believes me.


I'm not quite understanding how a 250hp, 265tq, 3175lb M3 can possibly run 13.1 at sea level with street tires and the stock gears...It just doesnt seem possible. I've gone to more close to sea level tracks than not and I've seen a few M3's like yours go and they never did anything quicker than low 14s the occasional 13.9 completely stock. Heck a guy was only doing 13.20's with his 333hp M3.

I mean I dont know how many stock, or near stock 99-04 Mustang GT's I've seen do high 13 second passes and I think you should be running about the same time as a manual one given equal driver skill or be within a tenth or two. They were never ever faster than that.
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:11 PM   #38
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Yeah, I guess your posts prove you're right.

So I know a few things. Doesnt mean Im a genuis or THINK that I am. Unlike someone. . .*cough cough*

The only thing wrong in any one of those posts was the mistake made about the 307 V8. I honestly had no idea.

The other post about the struts for the guys Grand Am was based of the KYB replacements without swaybar brackets for the 96-98 year Grand Am.

I really dont understand what your deal is. . .
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Old 04-04-2006, 05:19 PM   #39
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I'm not quite understanding how a 250hp, 265tq, 3175lb M3 can possibly run 13.1 at sea level with street tires and the stock gears...It just doesnt seem possible. I've gone to more close to sea level tracks than not and I've seen a few M3's like yours go and they never did anything quicker than low 14s the occasional 13.9 completely stock. Heck a guy was only doing 13.20's with his 333hp M3.

I mean I dont know how many stock, or near stock 99-04 Mustang GT's I've seen do high 13 second passes and I think you should be running about the same time as a manual one given equal driver skill or be within a tenth or two. They were never ever faster than that.

I agree, sorry Zalight but I can't see your car doing that with that power and weight.
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:05 PM   #40
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Whatever kiddies.

I know that online calculators aren't the best...its just to put in perspective how fast a 14.5 in albuqueque really is.

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I am by no means saying I would run a 13.1 at sea level, online converters obviously arent as good as actually going to sea level and running, but I would be close to it.

I would run CLOSE to a 13.1...the converter is just to put my time in perspective.

how about this, do you think an LS2 GTO (400hp and 400tq) could run a 13.1 at sea level if it was modified slightly? especially seeing as how they run a 13.3 (C&D Jan '05) at sea level.... cause my friend josh ran a 14.5 up here and he is modified with a lid and a catback

How about an SRT-8 Charger? Seems plausible doesn't it? A 13.1 at sea level is definitly possible seeing as how stock they run a 13.5(MT Dec.'05)


you guys remember that thread I posted of my dyno day? And my friend rons SRT-8? He as an intake a cat back and a dyno tune. so he would definitly run faster than a 13.5 at sea level prolly close to a 13.2 or so right?

well, here he is running a 14.5 in albuquerque

OH my!!! My 209 whp M3 is just as fast as a 382 whp SRT-8 and a modified LS2 GTO!!


Now do you think its plausible to see me run a low 13 at sea level?
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Whatever kiddies.

I know that online calculators aren't the best...its just to put in perspective how fast a 14.5 in albuqueque really is.



I would run CLOSE to a 13.1...the converter is just to put my time in perspective.

how about this, do you think an LS2 GTO (400hp and 400tq) could run a 13.1 at sea level if it was modified slightly? especially seeing as how they run a 13.3 (C&D Jan '05) at sea level.... cause my friend josh ran a 14.5 up here and he is modified with a lid and a catback

How about an SRT-8 Charger? Seems plausible doesn't it? A 13.1 at sea level is definitly possible seeing as how stock they run a 13.5(MT Dec.'05)


you guys remember that thread I posted of my dyno day? And my friend rons SRT-8? He as an intake a cat back and a dyno tune. so he would definitly run faster than a 13.5 at sea level prolly close to a 13.2 or so right?

well, here he is running a 14.5 in albuquerque

OH my!!! My 209 whp M3 is just as fast as a 382 whp SRT-8 and a modified LS2 GTO!!


Now do you think its plausible to see me run a low 13 at sea level?


No, I still think you'd be running at best in the high 13s at sea level. Remember, I've seen a few M3's just like your run at sea level, and they best any of them could do was 13.90's.

It could easily be possible that those guys cant drive that well.

I just find it very impossible to believe you can take a second and a half off your ET just by going down to sea level...can you take off time? Sure, but a second and a half, not in this case.
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Yeah, sorry, but no. I still believe high 13's is the best you would do.
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Whatever.

I show vids and provide proof, and I still get no luck
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Whatever.

I show vids and provide proof, and I still get no luck
I believe that your car ran a 14.582, but the conversion thing is probably a bit off, I'd think it would be closer to 13.5
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Whatever.

I show vids and provide proof, and I still get no luck

No one is denying you ran a 14.5 at the level you did. We are just highly skeptical this online calculator is worth a good look because it seems EXTREMELY far fetched...I'm talking from experience pretty much seeing most cars run at sea level, including some M3's exactly like yours.

I'm just not going to believe it until I see it.

Remember, you didnt provide any "proof" for running a 13.1 at sea level other than what a calculator said you can. I'll believe it when I see it.

I can see you doing high 13s, just like all the other M3's did, but a near 13 flat with an almost stock M3? Dont see it happening.
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